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    Quote Originally Posted by iriponsnow View Post
    Why? My kids have learned more in 2 weeks of private schools than all last spring & there's no behavioral nonsense being tolerated to distract from the education, parents are engaged & I now get meaningful communication from my kid's teachers.
    Its great you can afford to send your kids to the school you choose. Unfortunately that not the case for like over half the US population. Just makes for more "have nots".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skidog View Post
    Its great you can afford to send your kids to the school you choose. Unfortunately that not the case for like over half the US population. Just makes for more "have nots".
    It was either send my kids to private school or lose my biz & not provide healthcare. None of this would be occurring had schools done their job & prepared for say, the last 6 months. Plenty in our region have.

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    Schools did their job planning. Hah. Could you be more clueless? Born under a rock?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wooley12 View Post
    Schools did their job planning. Hah. Could you be more clueless? Born under a rock?
    Expand, pls

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skidog View Post
    Its great you can afford to send your kids to the school you choose. Unfortunately that not the case for like over half the US population. Just makes for more "have nots".
    So everyone needs to cater to the lowest common denominator and because some people can't afford something no one can have it?

    Good luck with that in America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iriponsnow View Post
    Expand, pls
    I'm sorry. Remedial education is not my forte. Do your own research. Start with "It's only the flu. It's a hoax" Research the war in Christmas while your at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wooley12 View Post
    I'm sorry. Remedial education is not my forte. Do your own research. Start with "It's only the flu. It's a hoax" Research the war in Christmas while your at it.
    People think public schools run like a private company. Aka dictatorship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdironRider View Post
    So everyone needs to cater to the lowest common denominator and because some people can't afford something no one can have it?

    Good luck with that in America.
    Hell if I knew the answer I likely wouldnt be posting in this thread or this forum with you knuckleheads... its the bagillion $$ question.

    I'm not saying you shouldn't send your kids to private schools if you have the means, I was just pointing out that its not an option for the majority of americans, hell the home schooling doesn't work for many due to needing both parent incomes. I think most of the public schools try, and some are very good. Need to figure out how to transfer some of that to the lower income communities. Again, wish I knew how. Easy answer would be lots more money for qualified teachers to go to those communities. I'm sure unions or budgets don't allow shit like that.

    We moved specifically to this town, not only because its very close to family, but compared to the surrounding towns/villages the schools in mine are better. They just didn't prepare. I'm a sys admin...this shit isn't rocket science...they had time, all they needed was planning. I work on projects with higher deliverable's and smaller timelines than the schools had all the time.

    I hope it gets better for everyone. Very few in this thread praising their local school systems

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    Quote Originally Posted by gravitylover View Post
    and there are some religious institutions that couldn't survive without that revenue stream.
    That right there is enough of an argument by itself to shut down religious schools.

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    ^ the systems people that work for school districts are not exactly experts in their field. Have of them are not even "experts". True geeks actually work where they get paid a lot more than a school ever would and also have the resources to purchase necessary equipment.

    You guys just don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdironRider View Post
    1) It is most definitely an apples to apples comparison. Controlling mask wearing? You think a minimum wage grocery store worker has any more say in who wears what compared to a teacher in a classroom? Come the fuck on.

    2) Actually, in my NH example, you can choose to attend private school. A popular choice is St. Johnsbury Academy in northern VT for many northern NH towns. Just because they cut out the middle man and don't cut the parents a check directly to then pay the school is just semantics.
    Do you have children? If so, you honestly think kids can SD perfectly and would have zero concerns with being a teacher exposed to 20-30 random kids daily who are exposed to god knows what when you're not around? Oh, and unlike a grocery store worker you're around them for hours and hours on end, indoors. I don't know what your grocery stores are like but there is 100% of people wearing masks where I shop, the number of people in teh store is limited, most people keep 6 feet distance, there are plastic shields at the check out, and there is zero contact with the cashier if you don't do self check. You think a grocery store is the exact same as an elementary school classroom? Yeah, come the fuck on. You're smarter than that...I think.

    In NH you get a voucher to spend on any school you choose?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdironRider View Post
    So everyone needs to cater to the lowest common denominator and because some people can't afford something no one can have it?

    Good luck with that in America.
    This is rich coming from someone with your political leanings. Isn't that what your team is expecting people to do on a number of issues such as gun rights/control? Abortion. Etc. Anyhow, I don't have an issue with private schools, but do not think it's in the public interest to extract money from public schools to subsidize private schools. Shit, you do that and then a religiously affiliated school also don't pay taxes.
    Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that

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    Right. You get good teachers (sometimes) at reduced salaries because it’s a labor of love. Not much to love about chasing systems on a shoestring budget in the bureaucracy of a school district. More like lack of options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skidog View Post
    Hell if I knew the answer I likely wouldnt be posting in this thread or this forum with you knuckleheads... its the bagillion $$ question.

    I'm not saying you shouldn't send your kids to private schools if you have the means, I was just pointing out that its not an option for the majority of americans, hell the home schooling doesn't work for many due to needing both parent incomes. I think most of the public schools try, and some are very good. Need to figure out how to transfer some of that to the lower income communities. Again, wish I knew how. Easy answer would be lots more money for qualified teachers to go to those communities. I'm sure unions or budgets don't allow shit like that.

    We moved specifically to this town, not only because its very close to family, but compared to the surrounding towns/villages the schools in mine are better. They just didn't prepare. I'm a sys admin...this shit isn't rocket science...they had time, all they needed was planning. I work on projects with higher deliverable's and smaller timelines than the schools had all the time.

    I hope it gets better for everyone. Very few in this thread praising their local school systems
    My local school has its issues, however, I think they are doing the best that they can. And I am behind them 100%. I am confident that when they make mistakes they will learn from them and do better, as they have in the past.

    This issue points out the problem I have from some dimwits in VT who are resistant to a more centralized education system in this state. The dimwits blather on about local control. And then criticize the state, when there isn't a coordinated approach to a crisis like this. Fuck. Em. And some of the people who've insisted on local control then get mad when their local district can't handle something like this. Fuck. Em. Too.

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    I guess this is how the rich do Covid schooling:
    https://m.fourseasons.com/puntamita/...schoolcations/

    The highlights:
    The Resort’s poolside Screen Doctor will clean guests' laptops or iPads and provide lap pads for guests who want to learn poolside.

    Study buddies will help kids with their homework and school work and can sit in on their classes to provide additional learning supervision.

    Pool and beach cabanas can be reserved and transformed into private work stations with ocean views. Each study cabana is outfitted with Wi-Fi, a TV monitor, headphones, a portable charger, lap pad and energizing snacks such as fresh fruits, smoothies and popsicles.
    "Great barbecue makes you want to slap your granny up the side of her head." - Southern Saying

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    This is what you get when you tie the funding of the school district directly to local taxes.

    But you know, funding that sort of thing nationally would be Socialism.


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    The missteps of our local district have pretty well validated our choice to do remote learning this semester. I’d rather my kids be a guinea pig from the other end of a chrome book at my home than in a classroom. I support them and how hard this must be, but I’m not interested in participating in the shitshow any more than we need to.
    focus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustonen View Post
    The missteps of our local district have pretty well validated our choice to do remote learning this semester. I’d rather my kids be a guinea pig from the other end of a chrome book at my home than in a classroom. I support them and how hard this must be, but I’m not interested in participating in the shitshow any more than we need to.
    That's where landed as well...even if there was an in classroom option we wouldn't want to be the Guinea pigs...it was going to be a start and stop thing as cases spike and they have to quarantine the whole school. Then it's a game of worrying if your kid got it, if they did will they have lifelong health issues (heart, lungs, etc.), if they were the vector and gave it to the teacher or a fellow student and the teacher or fellow student died, etc. etc. etc. Just seems like an uncessary risk...but one that some folks have to take due to their employment situation. We're lucky in that we have this option. I feel for single parents...one of our friends is a widow with three kids all primary school age...working and doing home school has to be damn near impossible.
    Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegoSkier View Post
    I guess this is how the rich do Covid schooling:
    https://m.fourseasons.com/puntamita/...schoolcations/

    The highlights:
    The Resort’s poolside Screen Doctor will clean guests' laptops or iPads and provide lap pads for guests who want to learn poolside.

    Study buddies will help kids with their homework and school work and can sit in on their classes to provide additional learning supervision.

    Pool and beach cabanas can be reserved and transformed into private work stations with ocean views. Each study cabana is outfitted with Wi-Fi, a TV monitor, headphones, a portable charger, lap pad and energizing snacks such as fresh fruits, smoothies and popsicles.
    Talk about fancy.

    I have no kids of my own, but my backyard connects with the backyards of two neighbors, both of whom have kids in kindergarten or 1st grade. I feel for them being always on the computer and do what I can to interact with them wenever possible. Popsicles help, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wooley12 View Post
    I'm sorry. Remedial education is not my forte. Do your own research. Start with "It's only the flu. It's a hoax" Research the war in Christmas while your at it.

    Respectfully, perhaps you missed the part where both my wife and I are actively treating Covid patients. I’ve been wearing a respirator and PPE since March.

    The school districts are conducting charade at this time. They had six months to get things together and have done absolutely nothing. Our district was not even able to put together a schedule that people could consider or work around. They also do not have curriculum set.

    I’ve had the benefit of treating SARS, MARS, MRSA, Ebola, H1N1... These infectious diseases are free floating through the population and always will be.

    Are you aware that a recent set of researchers found that only 15% of children eligible for nutritional support in schools are actually receiving it currently? Do you know how many children actually receive dental and medical care in school? Have you seen the literature on the fact that domestic and sexual abuse rates in children are dramatically down because they’re not being reported in school? Have you seen children logging in when they don’t have Wi-Fi or chrome books?

    I don’t know what to do about the social injustices in this world for the adults-but for the children we should at least provide them a uniform set of easily accessible educational opportunities.
    Last edited by iriponsnow; 09-17-2020 at 12:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iriponsnow View Post
    Respectfully...
    Who are you talking to? If me, I don't see how that negates any of what I said. I also mentioned that people, such as yourself, are in a shit situation and have to do what you have to do.
    Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush View Post
    Who are you talking to? If me, I don't see how that negates any of what I said. I also mentioned that people, such as yourself, are in a shit situation and have to do what you have to do.
    Fixed it

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    How could schools plan when there was no guidance or planning at the Fed level and both the science and political messaging was constantly changing? My buddy and his wife are both have covid bad. Their 6 and 9 year old kids are their care givers. But the the parents are both non citizens from Mexico so we fuck the whole family. Good job Trumpamerika.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iriponsnow View Post
    for the children we should at least provide them a uniform set of easily accessible educational opportunities.
    Absolutely. Agree 100%. Taxpayer funded public education. For all children. Regardless of color, income, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, religion, etc.

    Anyone, such as yourself, who is in favor of a voucher, even as a one-time deal because of covid-19, is part of the problem and not part of the solution. If the situation is as you say it is, then your school district fucked up and needs to be re-staffed. However, because you want what amounts to a voucher, I question your credibility as that puts you in a certain category that is absolutely not for what I quoted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riser3 View Post
    Absolutely. Agree 100%. Taxpayer funded public education. For all children. Regardless of color, income, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, religion, etc.
    Are you saying you wouldn't allow private schools to even operate? Or are you just anti-voucher?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wooley12 View Post
    How could schools plan when there was no guidance or planning at the Fed level and both the science and political messaging was constantly changing?
    ^YES. Too many people, through sheer ignorance or listening to politicized federal/state government, that everything would be fine by September. It was very clear from the numbers/attitude in our country that this school year was going to be a disaster for most districts.

    We made the decision to remote school our kids in June, well before the school district made the call in August. It's not worth it to me to put my kids in school where they could be exposed unnecessarily. I can work from home, so I've been teacher's assistant/tech. support/parent all while attempting to still do my paying job. It's stressful, but I consider our family lucky that we have the ability to do this with the only negative being I'm stressed and over-worked.

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