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Thread: Ahmaud Arbery
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05-08-2020, 10:28 AM #76
[QUOTE=doebedoe;5979043]We aren't assuming jack. Read a damn article from a reputable news source. It's in the police report.[/]
You have a whole narrative all loaded up, complete with all the backstories and the internal thoughts and motivations of everyone involved and everything that you think took place but isn’t on the footage, but you’re not assuming anything.
This deal where you think you know the entire case from the news and a shitty quality no-context youtube clip, and you’re now the judgejuryexecutioner, you’re going to mob up with the pitchforks and hang these guys in the town square....it’s literally exactly the same problematic overreaction you accuse them of. If they should have been patient and avoided jumping to conclusions, so should you.
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05-08-2020, 10:28 AM #77Head down, push foreword
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05-08-2020, 10:32 AM #78
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05-08-2020, 10:33 AM #79
it was fucking murder!!!!!!!!
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05-08-2020, 10:33 AM #80
The g;reat compromise and the 2 senators per state were about protecting slavery and the the slave states, since the slave states were underpopulated with eligible voters. Like wise the makeup of the electoral college. They feared that if both houses of the legislature had proportional representation Congress would abolish slavery. 233 years later and we are still paying the price for that disaster and will continue to do so for as long as anyone can see.
Ill--you seriously need to read and watch more about this case if you want to have an opinion. There is more video than what you've seen. There are statements from the local police to the effect that the murderers were chasing a robbery suspect--not someone they thought was a robbery suspect. There is no evidence of that whatsoever. The kid liked to run. He was running in his neighborhood. The murderers were from the next town over.
As far as a fight--2 white guys in a pickup truck chase a black guy down the street, cut him off, and get out with guns. These weren't cops were the victim might have had a chance to live if he raised his hands or laid down on the pavement. Kid figured he was going to get shot so he did the best he could to defend himself. Only in the movies does the unarmed hero take on 2 guys with guns and win.
You're normally a pretty level headed guy but you need to rethink this one.
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05-08-2020, 10:36 AM #81Registered User
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Why haven't you responded to the fact the police report literally said these two got guns, and chased the person who was killed?
There should be a mob with pitchforks when someone is chased, confronted, and killed in broad daylight while not actively committing a crime by armed vigilantes. And those two walk free for months afterwards.
Pretending that my actions are "the exactly the same problematic overaction you accuse them of" is such insufferable bullshit. I'm correcting a false narrative on the internet. Not killing someone after chasing them down.
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05-08-2020, 10:41 AM #82
For the record...
I’m so sick of innocent black people being murdered, constantly...and I find the whole narrative totally believable...I just take it with a grain of salt.
If those guys hunted an innocent kid down, and I do find that believable, fuck them up and down...and fuck everyone like them.
All I’m saying is it’s a good thing we don’t convict people of crimes based on social media outrage, because criticism and fairness go completely by the wayside in these windups. That’s all.
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05-08-2020, 10:54 AM #83
forget about convictions for a second, did these guys even have to go down to the station?
it just doesn’t look like the same justice system that the minor in rikers committed suicide over for allegedly stealing a backpack.j'ai des grands instants de lucididididididididi
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05-08-2020, 11:01 AM #84
Ew. What a pair of cooties.
I see the chase narrative in the police report.
For me, personally, I guess it’s just so fresh having had my statements to police twisted and regurgitated into their false narrative report...I’ll never trust police reports again.
Is the 911 call, or a transcript, posted somewhere?
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05-08-2020, 11:02 AM #85Head down, push foreword
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Shit I watched it again. Didn’t want too. Dude was fully cornered. This is clearly murder.
I still have no faith that justice will be served
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05-08-2020, 11:08 AM #86
For fuck sake there's already a private FB group with over a thousand members supporting these two pieces of shit ^^^^^...
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/...narmed-jogger/
“These 2 God-fearing men were only trying to protect their neighborhood. This area has had a string of break-ins and this man fit the description and did not comply with simple commands. Our hearts go out to the McMichael family in their time of need. Amen.”
Not comply with simple commands.....Fuck these mouthbreathers. Again, put em in general population and let it ride.......What we have here is an intelligence failure. You may be familiar with staring directly at that when shaving. .
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05-08-2020, 11:09 AM #87
Are you talking about the local police that tried to sweep this under the rug or the recent attention that is a result of a person being shot for taking a jog? It's hard to keep straight when you think the police are lying or telling the truth at this point.
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05-08-2020, 11:13 AM #88
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05-08-2020, 11:14 AM #89These 2 God-fearing men were only trying to protect their neighborhood. This area has had a string of break-ins and this man fit the description and did not comply with simple commands. Our hearts go out to the McMichael family in their time of need. Amen.
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05-08-2020, 11:16 AM #90
Simple commands from two armed POS rednecks? Fuck this shit.
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05-08-2020, 11:18 AM #91
It would be just like a retired redneck cop to provoke a fight then shoot in “defense.”
Fucking cops.
The whole thing stinks.
This country is awful. These people are awful. The news is awful. The internet is awful. Fuck all of it. It’s a depressing shit sandwich.
I’m sorry if my arguments here seem like “hey let’s give these klansmen a break”....it’s not that. I just have some raw nerves when it comes to police and the criminal justice system and the way the media and culture handle that stuff.
Whatever the details, known or unknown, I hope this is the last time this ever happens.
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05-08-2020, 11:19 AM #92Registered User
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I am so glad to hear you say that, because I was about to call you an idiot and worse for your last post, since he doesn't literally need to be cornered in a dead end alleyway; they had shotguns, not knives. I'm being idealistic that only a self-admitted white supremacist would see the video, read the other reported evidence, and STILL argue that these fuckers had a right to self defense. I'm optimistic that these guys will go to jail for a long time, and it's going to break my heart if somehow they get off on "self-defense".
and yeah, look at the photo of the murderers. I wouldn't be scared if I saw these hideous specimens openly brandishing weapons at a 2nd amendment rally, but if they chased after me and then cut me off while brandishing weapons, I'd be scared for my god damn life. if you pursue and corner someone with a shotgun without authority or evidence, you lose the right to self-defense, and it shouldn't be shocking that the victim might choose to fight for his life in this circumstance. I don't think there is any doubt who the aggressor is, legally speaking.
yeti, I have a general distaste for police too (for right or wrong), and clearly in this case the slimy south georgia police sided with the killers. yes, everyone deserves their day in court, but it's only going to get worse for the victims when they wind up in court.
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05-08-2020, 11:21 AM #93Head down, push foreword
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These two rednecks will have top notch lawyers because this is seen as a “gun rights” issue.
Gonna be a tough one
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05-08-2020, 11:24 AM #94
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05-08-2020, 11:25 AM #95
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05-08-2020, 11:29 AM #96
Please, please, let there be a virus infestation in the jail they're in.
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05-08-2020, 11:29 AM #97
I don’t trust police reports. Any of them.
You say he was shot for taking a jog. I say he was shot for trying to fistfight guys with guns. That doesn’t mean it’s justifiable, it’s just a lot more accurate.
Whoever you are, whatever the situation, probably don’t try to fistfight a guy holding a gun on you.
I’ve been at gunpoint, by a hitch hiker, being ordered around. If I had been like “fuck this” and tried to fistfight the guy I probably wouldn’t be here. That doesn’t exonerate the guy....I’m just saying once the guns are out you probably shouldn’t try to fight your way out of it.
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05-08-2020, 11:31 AM #98
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05-08-2020, 11:41 AM #99
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05-08-2020, 11:44 AM #100
Stop it!
If you applied the test of your situation to this then you would assume that the police report would be the most favorable to the podunks.
When you run that police report through that test and it still looks like they ran him down and murdered him (based on my dental assessment of the video and reading the police report) then you are actually arguing in favor of the veracity of the police report
So stop it Yetimang!Bunny Don't Surf
Have you seen a one armed man around here?
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