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    Quote Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy View Post
    The only videos I can find have a shaky view with no context setup...like, why are you filming, are you driving or parked, how did the fight start...how did they go from not interacting to fighting, etc

    I can see guy running, I can see a fight, I can see the shot, I canít see a lot of the other context everyone is discussing.

    I may be biased from being falsely accused last year, and having lots of people giving fabricated statements and lying to police, and a cop and prosecutor just running with it all, fabricating contexts and motives and dialogues and treating assumptions of my thoughts and things they imagined, treating a whole superstructure of lies as evidence and assumptions based on those lies as facts.

    So I guess pardon me if that shaky incomplete video clip leaves me with a ton of questions, instead of a sense of knowing exactly what happened. I donít know how the fuck some of these reporters come up with all these firm narratives of the context and details of the interaction based on that shitty video clip.

    I feel badly for everyone involved, this country is awful. People are awful. The news is awful. The internet is awful. Itís so depressing.
    Doesnít take a rocket scientist to see that a man was running while being pursued, approached by someone with a gun, then killed with the gun.

    Any way you slice it there is not a chance this is self defense.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by AK47bp View Post
    Doesnít take a rocket scientist to see that a man was running while being pursued, approached by someone with a gun, then killed with the gun.

    Any way you slice it there is not a chance this is self defense.


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    Heíd be alive had he not attacked the hicks with guns.

    Iím afraid they get off. Stand your ground laws and all...,

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    Quote Originally Posted by steepconcrete View Post
    He’d be alive had he not attacked the hicks with guns.

    I’m afraid they get off. Stand your ground laws and all...,
    Stand your ground law doesn't apply when you literally chase someone down.

    If anything, stand your ground would apply to Ahmaud here if anyone.

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    I'd be surprised if these two don't get life in prison. That's going to be a shitty time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doebedoe View Post
    Stand your ground law doesn't apply when you literally chase someone down.

    If anything, stand your ground would apply to Ahmaud here if anyone.
    One would hope. But I am extremely pessimistic and have zero faith in the system when it comes to these type of crimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m2711c View Post
    what's it going to take to get this country to function as it should?
    As it should according to who? It's working perfectly well for the people it was designed to benefit. White supremacy is, after all, baked into the Constitution and the Constitution is more or less a failed experiment at this point. Just consider that WY has the same number of Senators as CA. What a fucking joke.

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    I was not aware that race was mentioned in the constitution 🤷♂️

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    Quote Originally Posted by steepconcrete View Post
    I was not aware that race was mentioned in the constitution 🤷♂️
    Well, it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peruvian View Post
    Yes I misspoke but you caught before I could edit-> it mentions race but pertains to slavery ďthe following three-fifths clause applied not to blacks generically but rather to persons in the peculiar legal relation of slavery. Ē

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    Quote Originally Posted by RootSkier View Post
    Just consider that WY has the same number of Senators as CA. What a fucking joke.
    Yeah, and cali has 53 house representatives and wyoming has 1.


    Did you miss that part of american history class where they taught you about our bicameral legislature? And why the founding fathers thought that it was a “great compromise”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by doebedoe View Post
    Stand your ground law doesn't apply when you literally chase someone down.

    If anything, stand your ground would apply to Ahmaud here if anyone.
    There’s a chase?

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    I may be watching a shitty short version.
    Does anyone have a link to the longest-form, unedited raw version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy View Post
    There’s a chase?
    They literally got their guns, got in their truck, chased after a dude jogging and parked in front of him to intercept him. It's recounted in every article.

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    What’s the evidence for that narrative?

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    Dude, this isn’t about you and your problems with the fucking police.

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    I didnít see him being cornered or in immediate danger when he attacked. Thatís where the problem is going arise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m2711c View Post
    Yeah, and cali has 53 house representatives and wyoming has 1.


    Did you miss that part of american history class where they taught you about our bicameral legislature? And why the founding fathers thought that it was a “great compromise”?
    it would be interesting how things may be different if senators were not voted for directly like in the first 130 years of the nation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy View Post
    What’s the evidence for that narrative?
    Statements from the two who shot him. And the police report:

    From the NYTimes: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/08/u...gtype=Homepage

    " A police report said the McMichaels had grabbed two guns and followed Mr. Arbery in a truck after he ran past them."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy View Post
    I may be watching a shitty short version.
    Does anyone have a link to the longest-form, unedited raw version?
    Seriously: all I find are articles and news stories based on a really short poorly shot clip. Is there a longer vid with the chase, and with some of this “they hunted him down” context we’re all assuming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy View Post
    Seriously: all I find are articles and news stories based on a really short poorly shot clip. Is there a longer vid with the chase, and with some of this “they hunted him down” context we’re all assuming?
    We aren't assuming jack. Read a damn article from a reputable news source. It's in the police report.

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    [QUOTE=doebedoe;5979040]

    You think the truck in the video just so happened to be there, with two armed dudes”

    I don’t know, and I don’t think you know either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doebedoe View Post
    Statements from the two who shot him. And the police report:

    From the NYTimes: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/08/u...gtype=Homepage

    " A police report said the McMichaels had grabbed two guns and followed Mr. Arbery in a truck after he ran past them."
    and the 911 call....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by doebedoe View Post

    You think the truck in the video just so happened to be there, with two armed dudes”
    I don’t know, and I don’t think you know either.
    Actually i do know. Because I can read articles from reliable news sources like the NYtimes who reported on the contents of the police report and 911 calls leading up to event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy View Post
    Seriously: all I find are articles and news stories based on a really short poorly shot clip. Is there a longer vid with the chase, and with some of this “they hunted him down” context we’re all assuming?
    Apparently the video that's circulating was shot by a third pursuer. So when the video begins with Ahmaud running down the street, he's actually being pursued by the person shooting the video. The other 2 rednecks that shot him had gotten out in front of him to cut him off.

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