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  1. #1
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    WTS/WTT: ON3P Kartel 108 191 CM

    Trying to unload a pair of ON3P Kartel 108's that I picked up from @Lemonhead a while back. I cant remember what the mounts are for so if anyone has any ideas or if lemonhead can shout em out that would be much appreciated.

    I paid $350 for them and will be taking a hit no matter what, probably shouldn't have paid that much in the beginning, but thats a closed book. I am looking to get $300 (?). Or I would be open to trading for a touring ski for my dad. Those specs would be a ski between 180-190cm, 90-100cm waist, and mildly stiff for him to charge. He enjoys trees and moguls so something sort of nimble as well.

    Bases are in prime condition, topsheets have two mounts which is a bummer, other than that no issues. I am located in Denver and can arrange a dropoff in Denver over the next couple of days, silverthorne, steamboat, WP, or anywhere near Kremmling.
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  2. #2
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    Trade may be your best bet - they're selling new with shipping on the ON3P website for $524.
    Originally Posted by jm2e:
    To be a JONG is no curse in these unfortunate times. 'Tis better that than to be alone.

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    well that is $224 more than I am asking for... so. A pretty penny larger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cozzey View Post
    well that is $224 more than I am asking for... so. A pretty penny larger.
    -The Commish said it best, "If you're trying to sell gear here, don't expect to get market prices...unless you're willing to trade gonzo for a router. The standard maggot/minion pricing paradigm is:

    50% of current online price (not MSRP)
    -10% per year old
    -10% per times drilled, per core shot, per delam...etc
    -10% per marker binding attached
    +10-30% for Rare/High-demand item
    Originally Posted by jm2e:
    To be a JONG is no curse in these unfortunate times. 'Tis better that than to be alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orthoski View Post
    -The Commish said it best, "If you're trying to sell gear here, don't expect to get market prices...unless you're willing to trade gonzo for a router. The standard maggot/minion pricing paradigm is:

    50% of current online price (not MSRP)
    -10% per year old
    -10% per times drilled, per core shot, per delam...etc
    -10% per marker binding attached
    +10-30% for Rare/High-demand item

    Fair enough... Iíll say $200+shipping then or a trade. Just trying to get my dad a setup.

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    Would you be interested in working out a trade for 183 2019 BD route 95's? Great dad skis

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    Found old thread. Looks like Pivot and Warden holes at 295 and 315. Hmmm, I would need to do a 3rd mount. Need to think about these. If you can reuse holes, these are a no brainer.
    Last edited by phatty; 04-03-2020 at 08:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beowulf122 View Post
    Would you be interested in working out a trade for 183 2019 BD route 95's? Great dad skis
    Did some research and my dad is a bit too large and chargey for these. Thanks for the offer but I think im going to pass.

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    Is your dad a Dynastar guy? I've got a pair of 189 Cham 107 2.0 mounted once with Fritschi FR Pro @around -1 for 335 bsl. Binders could be included if you'd like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikebob View Post
    Is your dad a Dynastar guy? I've got a pair of 189 Cham 107 2.0 mounted once with Fritschi FR Pro @around -1 for 335 bsl. Binders could be included if you'd like.
    A bit too wide for his taste. Trying to find something that can get his older knees through many runs of moguls.

    Appreciate the offer though.

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    Oh no, pivots at 315?? Shit, 200 is a screaming deal then

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    188 Rossi Sky 7s? 130-100-120 dims. Bases are great. One mount for Dynafits at 310ish BSL. Trade? I'm not sure what they ski like though so might not be the right skis for your pops.
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    Iím a 295. I feel like I should buy these just to put an end to the travesty that is Kartels for $200. What has the world come to?
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    Seriously, that is a ridiculous deal. I'm a 295 too, but figure if I can't get on with a Billy Goat, the Kartel really won't work for me.
    He who has the most fun wins!

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    Hum... maybe... what year are these? Some day I need to give a modern ON3P a shot...


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    2019!! Like brand new besides top sheet damage. For $200 I may keep them so buy them before I change my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by comish View Post
    Seriously, that is a ridiculous deal. I'm a 295 too, but figure if I can't get on with a Billy Goat, the Kartel really won't work for me.
    Very different skis. Kartels are very easy in anything soft, a great combination of having substance but also playfulness. I think the people that don't get along with them are those that are very used to driving through the tips of the skis rather than having a more centered, freestyle stance. BGs are true crud busters that come alive in 3D snow.
    Originally Posted by jm2e:
    To be a JONG is no curse in these unfortunate times. 'Tis better that than to be alone.

  18. #18
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    Ah fuck it, deal is too good to pass up I'll take them. PM incoming

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