demo bindings.

[cobblehiller]

Looking for info on Bindings. Looking for good info on fully adjustable bindings. Learning a lot from google but one intelligent answer here can save me hours.
does anyone know what models from what brands are available as fully adjustable?
if so, is there any code or description other than the word demo that would let me know which are?
I know MNC stand for multi norm compatible. referring to the type of boot sole but not necessarily (or at all meaning) a fore/aft sliding toe piece.
Atomic has the VAR but that's more for dialing in exact performance, and is not toolless.
New 94 all mountains. I want to move fore/aft, depending on carving ,floating, or hitting the park( not lapping the park much but on crap condition days I like to see if I can displace some vertebrae. ) Big tall fatso so don't think an 11 will do it, so looking for a 13 or 14ish. Off course I will want everones opinion on the best ones, but for now just hoping for options and knowledge.

[scmartin69]

Tyrolia Attack 13 demos...

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[Core Shot]

Marker

Biometric toe

[Bandit Man]

Marker

Biometric toe

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[skuff]

Tyrolia Attack 13 demos...

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Here's a video from a couple of years ago but I'm guessing the bindings haven't changed. Or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zhX...ature=emb_logo

Kind of some Blair Witch style editing toward the end, but I think you'll get the idea.

[XXX-er]

I got the attaks they work fine, easier to instal maybe, they are heavier also you are higher off the ski so if yer a special flower you might get nosebleeds or at least vertigo

[scmartin69]

I got the attaks they work fine, easier to instal maybe, they are heavier also you are higher off the ski so if yer a special flower you might get nosebleeds or at least vertigo

Nosebleeds... LOL

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[margotron]

I got the attaks they work fine, easier to instal maybe, they are heavier also you are higher off the ski so if yer a special flower you might get nosebleeds or at least vertigo

so good. all skiing consumer behavior can be explained by "if yer a special flower, then.."

[XXX-er]

the difference in height off the ski is a few mm, I would bet many people could not tell the difference in a blind comparison especialy on soft snow ... unless you are the special flower

[ARL67]

For "All-Mountain" use there are 3-4 usual options

Attack2 , Warden, Squire/Griffon/Jester , Look NX

Phil ( aka: "Flexon Phil" at TGR ) keeps an up-to-date list over at his Pugski forums:

https://www.pugski.com/threads/2020-...indings.16303/

https://www.pugski.com/threads/2020-...indings.16306/

https://www.pugski.com/threads/2020-...indings.16304/

https://www.pugski.com/threads/2020-...indings.16305/

[Evil E]

You want alpine trekkers


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[cobblehiller]

For "All-Mountain" use there are 3-4 usual options

Attack2 , Warden, Squire/Griffon/Jester , Look NX

Phil ( aka: "Flexon Phil" at TGR ) keeps an up-to-date list over at his Pugski forums:

https://www.pugski.com/threads/2020-...indings.16303/

https://www.pugski.com/threads/2020-...indings.16306/

https://www.pugski.com/threads/2020-...indings.16304/

https://www.pugski.com/threads/2020-...indings.16305/

thanks ARL67 I had found an older post over there, but yes this one is perfect thank you.

[MMMSKI]

Attack 13 demo

[cobblehiller]

why attack over warden?

[Bandit Man]

There isn’t a simple “this one is best” answer here. They are all pretty heavy and most add some stack height. I like the Marker Griffon/Jesters and Wardens since there are lots of brake options. The Markers weigh less and have a lower stack height, but the Wardens are just easier to use. Warden 13’s seem the toughest to acquire without buying with used demo skis, but they have not been around as long either. Figure what DIN and brake width you need and purchase accordingly.

[gregorys]

My two cents.
I've skied all the more recent demos; Soly Z12's, Attack 1 and Attack 2, Marker Royal [Griffons, I think mostly] in the old worm-drive and the newer Sole ID, Warden 13's. [Probably one or two others I don't recall right now.]

I'd rate them in this order:
1) The Attacks [either version] - the Attack2 is MNC/GW/Alpine sole compatible - so that's nice. I think the elasticity on the Attack isn't as high as some others, but I've had very nice retention with these, and I'm pretty out there in how hard I push things. [If you're not crashing and burning pretty regularly, you're not trying hard enough.] Get the Attack2 unless you only need alpine sole compatibility.

2) Warden 13 MNC. These are also very good. I don't like the brakes much, but they're solid. Also MNC so you can fit any ISO standard AT boot, GW/WTR and Alpine soles in them.

3) Newer Markers with Sole ID. I like the indexed BSL vs worm drive in the older markers. The heel mech is less likely to mash your hand too vs the old worm drive. Easier to step into in deep snow. IIRC, only GW and Alpine sole compatibility.

4) Z12's et al. Reasonable - can get a bit sloppy, mechanically. Retention/elasticity isn't awesome, but reasonable. Alpine sole compatibility only.

5) Old worm-drive markers. Good retention. Awesome hand smashing ability on the heel dildo. Horrible to get into, in deep soft snow. Alpine sole compatibility only.

[cobblehiller]

Thank you for your help everyone,
next question, fischer ranger 94 fr which actually measures at 92. 90 mm or 100 mm brake ?