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  1. #201
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    Quote Originally Posted by highangle View Post
    I lived in the South for years, and unless you really go out of your way to find flat wide-open agricultural country, your shots on deer are all going to be under 100 yards. You can't see much further than that in those woods, and even if you could your scope always blurs sticks that deflect and frag. So you're shooting deer at 20-60yds, through little 4" holes, from a treestand or shack stand that may or may not afford a rest. No rest, no minute-of-angle groups no matter how much you spent...

    Like Jack O'Connor, I'd rate the 30-30 up there as #2 American big game cartridge of all time. Probably #1, if you go by weight of all the bacon it's brought home. It's as versatile as the .30-06, with factory loads from 130gr to 190gr, and just as good on anything other than grizz or beanfield shots.

    For decades, the .30-30 was a social marker here in Alaska. Native subsistence hunters couldn't afford fine MOA rifles in elite wildcat cartridges. So for years and years, if you found some brass on the ground you could tell if a Native or a white guy fired it by the caliber.
    If it was the only gun I could own, I would be fine with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warthog View Post
    If it was the only gun I could own, I would be fine with that.
    Me too. My paternal grandfather fed his family market hunting deer with a Model 94 and ducks with a L.C. Smith 10ga during the Depression. Had 9 brothers, all loggers in Quebec, where he was born in 1902...


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    Oh, wait - Did someone say SHOTGUN:

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    Would like to get a Benelli M4 just for something a little more traditional.

  4. #204
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    I really like my Mossy 590A1, mine is wood stocked with the heat guard ala trench gun. Top it off with the M9 for those pointy stick duties.
    watch out for snakes

  5. #205
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    Life is not a video game. That is the last post I will make on this thread. It's ridiculous.

    Blow your money anywhere you want. I won't care or judge.

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    Its not!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SB View Post
    I really like my Mossy 590A1, mine is wood stocked with the heat guard ala trench gun. Top it off with the M9 for those pointy stick duties.
    I still can't wrap my head why you would put a bayonet on your shotgun. You specifically. Yes, I can see the point (hehe) possibly for CQB, aka trench warfare, or guarding prisoners. But it doesn't make sense even in the remotest of wild prepper fantasies. Unless you are actively hoping for and or working to cause a civil war and plan to be part of an organized unit. Which is a problem and should disqualify a person from owning firearms. It's one thing to prepare for uncertain times. There's a few terms in the federal statutes for actively precipitating it.

  8. #208
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    ^^^Maybe it’s a virtual cock extension...
    And yea, this thread got thrunted by the AR/Glock crowd.
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    I spoke at a graveside memorial service recently for a vet who was skilled with, and had killed with the knife. The guy died by cutting his own throat about 3 years after his last kill. I spoke with a vet who knew the soldier and he told me that it took a few days for the man in the ground to die. You'd think he'd have had moar skilz. Or maybe he used the skills he learned to do the job he wanted to do.
    A few people feel the rain. Most people just get wet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TBS View Post
    ^^^Maybe it’s a virtual cock extension...
    And yea, this thread got thrunted by the AR/Glock crowd.
    Um, excuse me? "Glock crowd"? I own a Glock 19. This is the first and hopefully only mention of it in this thread. So no "thrunting" about it on my part. And for the record, I am not a huge fan. I'd rather have a 1911A1.

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    FYI, proved the Aguilla shorties will not work in a Benelli M1 Super 90, or a Beretta 1201 shorty. Two shells dump in the loader and it becomes a jamomatic. Much better in the pump for some reason.
    In order to properly convert this thread to a polyasshat thread to more fully enrage the liberal left frequenting here...... (insert latest democratic blunder of your choice).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNKen View Post
    FYI, proved the Aguilla shorties will not work in a Benelli M1 Super 90, or a Beretta 1201 shorty. Two shells dump in the loader and it becomes a jamomatic. Much better in the pump for some reason.
    I didn't expect them to work. Thanks for trying.

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    So I'm picking up a 20 guage waterfowl pump today. Ammo on hand is bird shot. Seems that would have enough stopping power from 10-15 feet. Google seem to say I'm good to go. Any thoughts?
    https://nyfirearms.com/forums/shotgu...rdshot-hd.html

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    My self defense ammo is 3" #5 prairie storm pheasant loads out of my browning bps, which happens to be my waterfowl gun. Just the shells and weapon I have on hand and probably will not feel good if someone were to be shot in the face with it.

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    It'll pepper em up real nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wooley12 View Post
    So I'm picking up a 20 guage waterfowl pump today. Ammo on hand is bird shot. Seems that would have enough stopping power from 10-15 feet. Google seem to say I'm good to go. Any thoughts?
    https://nyfirearms.com/forums/shotgu...rdshot-hd.html
    H]
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    YeeeHaaa!! Remington Model 870 Express Compact. A mere 40" long. 3 boxes of #2's to practice being Rambo. My Stay At Home is at the edge of nothing but forest. Maybe 3 boxes isn't enough? I have a strange feeling in my jeans.

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  18. #218
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    Quote Originally Posted by riser3 View Post
    I hate that fucking song with a passion.
    strikes a little to close to home ? ;-)
    "Can't you see..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshall Tucker View Post
    strikes a little to close to home ? ;-)
    No. I hate it because if you are not listening to the words it's catchy. And the message is absolutely awful, normalizes shit that shouldn't be normalized. I have kids and don't really want them hearing that it's ok to get hooked on oxy and then blow their brains out. To me it seems like a foreign psyop, to further crumble our society.

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