Lessons learned in going fat...

[Ski Donkey]

Couple years back I moved to Anchorage, AK, decided I wanted to keep riding in the winter, and subsequently went fat. I’ve been a long time mountain biker with a ton of knowledge and experience, I went into fat biking blind. I thought I’d share what I learned in this process so that you could learn, or laugh at my blunders.

Im an aggressive rider, fast and fun, I go up only so I can go down. In the 90’s I rode Kona stinky’s and stabs, in the early 2000’s I joined the carbon revolution with ibis and have been riding their longer travel models since (currently on a ripmo).

When I decided to buy a fat bike i assumed they were pretty much all the same, fat and slow, good for getting out for a mellow ride with the wife and dogs in the winter, a novelty, something to do when I couldn’t ski. I figured the only real difference was weight, lighter bike easier to peddle, heavier = more work.... so when I saw a carbon (sucker for that word btw) salsa bear grease fully built for $1800 I thought perfect, a lighter fat bike at a decent price, especially for that magic c word and pulled the trigger without a test ride.

The first thing I learned is fat biking is pretty damn fun, the second thing I I should’ve transferred from skiing, there’s all sorts of snow conditions out there, and the third thing I learned, is that just because I’m now on a fully rigid fat bike, it’s not going to change my riding style - I still wanted to go fast and flow, i started looking at trails with speed, flow, jumps, and playfulness in mind. I quickly learned that groomed/packed/ridden snow was all I had any interest in riding, and riding fresh tracks fat biking through a beautiful untouched pristine snow field was the same as xc skiing to me, that shits for some of else, and then I realized winter/fat biking didn’t have to be “xc skiing”. So then I started the evolution of my stock beargrease.

It started with a set of 27.5 x 3 studded wraithchild tires I one as a door prize (The stock tires on my beargrease were unstudded 27.5 x 4”). I’d been eyeballing studded tires but couldn’t stomach the cost, did a quick search and saw that the stock 80mm rims would hold. 3” tire and put all my tickets in the bucket for the Wrathchild. I figured since all I was riding was packed trails at this point the difference in flotation between 3” and 4” wouldn’t matter, and the studs would make up for any loss of traction. I was right. I through the wraithchilds on, the narrower tire with less rolling resistance and weight felt like a turbocharger, it was awesome!

What I didn’t account for was the fact that those 4” tires absorbed waaay more impact and shock than the wraithchild and now I’m getting bounced around everywhere,and after 20 minutes of riding my wrists and hands began to ache. So I started casually looking at craigslist for a Fat suspension fork and found a good enough deal on a Bluto.

Like the wraithchild tires the bluto was a game changer- now I could charge lines with confidence, and speed and ride get into a ride for more than 20minutes opening up a lot of new trail options. Trails with corners. Now that I had 3” tires, and some suspension up front i was riding with more speed, except corners. I couldn’t corner without my damn ridged seatpost getting in the way... I forgot how much dropper posts changed the game.

In walks a brand x ascend II dropper post for a $100 with remote. To good to be true? Maybe, The reviews are all great so I take a chance, I’m now responsible for one more 5 star review. Now with 3” tires, a suspension fork, and my saddle out of the way thanks to a dropper, I’m able to ride with speed and flow and hit it hard everywhere, even the corners, just like summer. At least that’s what I thought was going to happen. Now that my dropper post is out of the way and I’m leaning my bike into corners I’m sliding out as soon as I start to get the bike over. Turns out 3” tires on an 80mm rim give fantastic traction, in a straight line, but it doesn’t leave a lot of side profile when it comes to cornering, in this category I might as well be on slicks.

So back come the stock 4” out of retirement. And this time I set them up tubeless, and you know what, they’re pretty damn good, fun and fast, good traction. I don’t ride much ice, just packed groom snow, turns out studs aren’t necessary. So finally a happy ending. Well, almost, still one lesson to learn. Going fast with big 27.5 x 4” is too much work for 160mm mechanical disc brakes. Hydraulics are necessary and I went 180mm up front and recommend the same.

So if you’re consider fat biking, don’t make the assumption that it’s just slow, it’ll change your riding, and it’s all the same. Luckily I stumbled into a platform that was supported my riding style (beargrease) they’re are plenty of fat bikes out there that don’t have this geometry, so make sure you buy for what you’re oooking to ride.

I also learned that they ain’t just for summer, and because I got lucky with aggressive hard tail geometry I’m also able to rally it as a summer ride swapping out the wheel set for some super fun 29 x 2.8s

It’s been fun learning all this, but I do wish I would’ve known this from the start.

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[gravitylover]

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[Falcon3]

I didn’t read the post but I’ll assume OP is thinking about trying out fat chicks. Maybe talk to Booner for pointers.

[rideit]

Anyone wanna guess what this bot’s native language is?
Mods, can we get an unmasked IP address, please?

[Shredhead]

Fat Bike photo dump.

[evasive_MT]

I didn’t do enough fatbiking last winter. I’m not looking forward to it exactly, but definitely want to do a lot more.

[Touring_Sedan]

Why the fuck are you guys replying to a goddamned bot?!!! You know there's a 50 page thread for this shit, right?

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