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  1. #326
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyderjon View Post
    auvgeek, I wasn't going to stock the Haute Route 10 but I presold a few which arrived today but I think one of the buyers switched their order to another model so I might have a spare set - I'll check tomorrow. I've presold so many ATK's that I've had to place another which will be arriving early Nov so if they're not available I can always get a set added to that delivery. If you're interested then PM me your zip code and I'll get back to you with a shipped price.
    PM sent. Thanks mang.
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  2. #327
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    Quote Originally Posted by tgapp View Post
    thanks Spyderjon!

    do you have an approximate idea of what the hole spacing is on the new Release/C-Raider toe? wondering if i can sneak a b&d shim under there; i know the mount pattern is new/wider for this year's bindings. also, do you know if atk will be publishing templates?
    I'm choka at the moment with stock arriving and getting out pre-orders but when I get a minute I'll measure up the hole spacings off my jig and I'll let you know.

    The mounting templates for the new bindings are on ATK's recently updated website but it doesn't look like the links are live yet but they should be soon: https://www.atkbindings.com/en/downloads-2/

  3. #328
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    Anyone have a mounting template for the bd Helio 350

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    Quote Originally Posted by cat in january View Post
    Anyone have a mounting template for the bd Helio 350
    My 350s just arrived today. With the info from the thread I printed out the "Crest 10" and the "R12" templates. The crest 10 is for the toes and the R12 for the heels. They match up perfectly.

  5. #330
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    Thanks did a quick search and did not see it

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    I'm in need of Helio 180 template.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfluffenmeister View Post
    I'm in need of Helio 180 template.
    This should be the Trofeo Plus. Download it from here (but as always, check before committing): https://www.atkbindings.com/en/downloads-2/

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  8. #333
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    i printed today and laid bindings on paper template looks good
    check printer measure twice
    premount on 2x4
    let us know how it goes and any tips we should know
    now what skis to mount them on.

  9. #334
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    Any chance a 102mm ATK FR14 brake would squeeze onto a 111mm ski?

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    Nope, you need 108mm and even that one will require light bending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un View Post
    This should be the Trofeo Plus. Download it from here (but as always, check before committing): https://www.atkbindings.com/en/downloads-2/

    ... Thom
    Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuntmanbo View Post
    Nope, you need 108mm and even that one will require light bending.
    That's good to know, considering every other manufacturers brakes seem to be about 10mm wider than the stated width.

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    I wonder whether there is any way for us to put together a TGR group buy, the way I organized the Plum group buy years ago.
    I'd bet that we can get enough maggots to purchase 50+ pair. $400 or so for FR14 would be schweet!!!

    I think that I will send an e-mail of inquiry to ATK.
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    QUOTE=bigdeaner14;6082946]Any chance a 102mm ATK FR14 brake would squeeze onto a 111mm ski?[/QUOTE]

    Quote Originally Posted by stuntmanbo View Post
    Nope, you need 108mm and even that one will require light bending.
    Quote Originally Posted by glademaster View Post
    That's good to know, considering every other manufacturers brakes seem to be about 10mm wider than the stated width.
    The internal width of all the ATK brakes, when measured across the underside of heel base, matches their stated width. At the tips of the levers the internal width is then another 11/12mm wider.

    And their 'double bend' at the elbow makes it a lot easier to narrow/widen them compared to a brakes with 90 degree elbows.

    Here's some pics of the 97mm brake to illustrate:

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  15. #340
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    Quote Originally Posted by cat in january View Post
    Thanks did a quick search and did not see it
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  16. #341
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    got this sweet pair of Release 10's courtesy of Spyderjon today, and i am stoked!

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    toe pattern for the new ATK carbon toepiece looks like 45mmx45mm square (no calipers so i just used my trusty cutting mat to measure), which is definitely an improvement over the 30x27 we're used to seeing for ATK. it looks like the direct closest comparable binding would be the G3 Ion in terms of mount spacing.

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    bindings are ~10 grams heavier than stated weight, but that's to be expected (i guess?!). why can't manufacturers just tell the truth here? not a big deal though.

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    with screws & leash we're at 289. sub 300! also, the fact that they included leashes is a nice touch.

    some other details..

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    the tensioning spring for the heel riser is user-serviceable (no floppy flappies!!), that's a really nice touch. the flappies also seem longer than in previous ATK bindings, should give nice support for the heel

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    there's only 20mm of adjustment in the heel travel (i know, i'm a whiner) - should be enough, but i'm so ADD when it comes to boots that i need to think about this mount carefully.

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    i think this plastic jobber is a spacer for where the freeride spacer can go? if so, it begs the question - why put in a spacer for the spacer (and not just the spacer itself)? need to see if my existing spacers will work in this space.

    big shoutout to spyderjon for being super easy to work with and shipping these super fast. now to mount and wait for snow...

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    Nice man, those look great. Prob get those when my light clamps are done. Got some FR14 scheduled for delivery today... stoked to check em out

  18. #343
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    I had a Radical ST, Tecton and currently ski a Vipec - all with DIN setting of 6.5/7. Don't know which one to buy: ATK R12 or R10? R12 has a DIN range 5-12 and the R10 has 4-10.

  19. #344
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    R12. I ski at 7 or 8 depending on bindings and I ski the R12 at 8. R12 will be better for resale also.

  20. #345
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    buy the red one

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    Thanks!

  22. #347
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    Quote Originally Posted by tgapp View Post

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    ... there's only 20mm of adjustment in the heel travel (i know, i'm a whiner) - should be enough, but i'm so ADD when it comes to boots that i need to think about this mount carefully..
    Better to be OCD before the mount than after ;-)

    I always think about future boot selections (BSL), and I currently mount for my Zero-Gs, but bias the mount to allow for a lighter, shorter boot. With my 293BSL, I'll do a test mount to allow for extension to say, 300 which would allow for all the way down to 280.

    Of course the second consideration (because we are being OCD after all) is where you want the boot center to land. Do you work off of your long boot, short boot, or somewhere in between.

    There's time until the snowpack builds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfluffenmeister View Post
    Thank you!
    That template work out for you with the helio 180s? I have access to a mill right now to accurately drill holes but don't have the bindings with me, so wanted to check that the template measurements are spot on.

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    If you have a mill, then I'd modify the template based on test mounts with the binding in hand.

    I find templates in general to be "hand drill" accurate.

    ... Thom
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    For some complicated logistical reasons I can either have skis + mill but no bindings or skis + bindings but no mill. So I'm trying to decide which I am less likely to screw up.

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