Results 926 to 950 of 2276
Thread: Official ATK Binding Thread
-
03-30-2021, 02:09 PM #926Registered User
- Join Date
- Mar 2010
- Location
- Breckenridge
- Posts
- 726
-
03-30-2021, 02:17 PM #927Gel-powered Tech bindings
- Join Date
- Dec 2004
- Location
- Amherst, Mass.
- Posts
- 4,684
Ah, interesting, thanks.
The change must have occurred before the 2017-18 season, because my old heel flaps have that same arch as the current model.
(I did notice that the small cut-out is on the underside of my old heel flaps as compared to the top of the new heel flaps, but that doesn't seem to be making any significant difference.)Mo' skimo here: NE Rando Race Series
-
03-30-2021, 04:15 PM #928
https://www.haganskimountaineering.c...EpDlPPeuYVZkUo
Hagan coming out with the Core 10 which has a toe plate with multiple positioning options. At 390g its only 40g heavier than the standard Core/Raider 12, which is pretty good considering a toe shim weighs 30g. For me the ability to move the toe forward for tight trees and back for deep powder and open slopes is very appealing.
-
03-30-2021, 04:20 PM #929
-
03-30-2021, 04:23 PM #930
-
04-02-2021, 03:30 PM #931Registered User
- Join Date
- Feb 2021
- Location
- Wasatch
- Posts
- 616
-
04-02-2021, 03:32 PM #932Registered User
- Join Date
- Jan 2014
- Posts
- 865
Takes place of a toe shim as well, less ramp. Kinda cool.
-
04-02-2021, 03:34 PM #933
-
04-03-2021, 06:27 AM #934
Searched the thread to no avail. Does anyone know if there is a substitute grease to use for the binding lubrication? I can probably order through Hagan, but seems much simpler to just go to Napa
-
04-03-2021, 06:28 AM #935
White lithium
crab in my shoe mouth
-
04-03-2021, 07:06 AM #936
Thanks buttahflake
Just to make it easy, here is a link for lubricating the brakes on a crest
http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=768w6eFdK78
And the heel on crest and raiders
http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7LgFke01yULast edited by cat in january; 04-05-2021 at 09:06 AM.
-
04-03-2021, 07:18 AM #937
No worries
crab in my shoe mouth
-
04-03-2021, 10:43 AM #938
I did contact atk about using an AL05 spacer with the crest 10 and this is their response:
I don’t suggest you to use an AL05 with a CREST 10 because you will drill it in a position where you don’t need to fill the gap with the sole boot, exactly in the concave angle.
In addition to this, the AL05 spacer should be installed with a pair of skis large in the central part at least 95-100 mm.
For this reason, usually, the spacers are drilled with free touring/free ride gear.Last edited by cat in january; 04-05-2021 at 09:07 AM. Reason: Moved links to post above
-
04-04-2021, 10:34 AM #939
If anybody in Europe (CH preferrably) needs a ATK freeride spacer (AL05), I have an extra one, new in the wrapper with screws.
Edit: a pair, obviously.
-
04-05-2021, 11:20 AM #940
A few weeks ago I was complaining about how the elasticity springs in my Hagan Pure/Crest bindings were really soft and squishy, and friends who have the same bindings all had varying degrees of squishiness. I even took them in to SkimoCo where I tested mine against a demo pair they had, both were very soft but mine were a bit softer. Hagan told me that there was a "batch" of springs from ATK that were too soft and replaced mine for free. The original springs I had were silver, as are the springs of all my friends who had bought them fall 2020 or earlier. The replacement springs are black MUCH stiffer, would not mistake them for my old ones or the springs on any of my friends bindings.
Anyhoo, I just got a new pair of Crests and they came with stiffer springs, painted black. I don't think that the soft springs were just from one "batch," and it looks like they quietly made an update. If you have silver elasticity springs you might want to reach out and get some black ones.
-
04-08-2021, 08:50 AM #941Registered User
- Join Date
- Feb 2021
- Location
- Wasatch
- Posts
- 616
I currently ski ATK Trofeos and really like them. Have probably 150-200k ft on them, and I've never had a problem with them. Like I literally have not had a problem with them. Which is exactly what I want out of a binding. And I don't really want to fiddle with a binding, either - heel riser up, heel riser down, heel rotated, heel rotated back, middle heel riser up, high heel riser up, etc. - during a skin. It just seems tedious.
Given this, do you all think that there's a lot of advantage to the elasticity of the Crest? Weight-wise, that's probably as high as I would go, and only because we can get them cheap through various methods. If I had to pay full price, I'd want to try the much-talked-about Ski Trab Varios.
Thanks all.
-
04-08-2021, 10:37 AM #942Registered User
- Join Date
- Mar 2021
- Posts
- 50
I also have trofeos and crests (run breakless, bought before the Release 10 was a thing). I only notice the crest as skiing better in two cases. When in funky dense snow that is constantly cambering and decambering the ski. Similar to having a more progressive fork on the bike in rock gardens etc. The other place I notice the crest as being noticable is if you have a really soft ski. I have found the spring helps take-up some of the extra flexing of the ski underfoot and prevents prerelease.
Moving forward I would buy crests for the flexibility if I can get similar pricing. The extra 50g without brakes is worth it for me to get adjustable vert RV and the ability to have slightly more piece of mind about prerelease on my ski noodles
-
04-08-2021, 10:46 AM #943Registered User
- Join Date
- Jan 2014
- Posts
- 865
I wish someone in NA was doing better comms for ATK. All companies have issues with new bindings, and ATK IMHO has comparatively few issues compared to G3/Dynafit etc - but it would be nice for *someone* affiliated with ATK to be posting in an official capacity about this inline changes. Transparency is always best...
-
04-08-2021, 10:55 AM #944
It's downright cartoonish how good ATK is at making bindings and how bad they are at literally every other aspect of their business. Product line management (Thom has to keep a 32-tab spreadsheet to track minute changes between models), advertising, recalls, customer communication, etc. Small wonder they come from the country that brought us Fiat.
Originally Posted by CirqueScaler
i ski release 10's and i love 'em. can't say if they're better or worse or whatever, but agonizing over 50g differences is internet wankery at it's finest. IMO the freeride spacer makes a bigger difference than any sort of heel elasticity, but i'm even too lazy to bother putting that on. maybe next year.
-
04-08-2021, 11:18 AM #945Registered User
- Join Date
- Feb 2021
- Location
- Wasatch
- Posts
- 616
yeah, the 8 RV I run is pretty firm for me, and I think the 6 would be too soft. Not ideal. I've talked about this w/ a ski partner.
Good point, except for thinking that this is agony. Just like walking uphill, I love the pain, even if it's stupid.
-
04-08-2021, 05:28 PM #946
I can't speak for elasticity, but the one thing I really prefer about the crest over the trofeo is that if you spin the heel you get flat mode and high riser with just your ski pole. I hate having to turn the trofeo heel piece if I want to switch. Even if I only have to do it once it's awkward and hard to turn. I think some of the other ATK offerings have this setup too but I have lost track of them all at this point.
Sent from my Pixel XL using TGR Forums mobile app
-
04-08-2021, 06:20 PM #947
Every one needs to be spun to get flat mode.
... ThomGalibier Designcrafting technology in service of music
-
04-08-2021, 09:13 PM #948
-
04-08-2021, 11:28 PM #949Registered User
- Join Date
- Jan 2014
- Posts
- 865
-
04-09-2021, 12:34 AM #950
But once you have spun it once, you just flip the riser up and have it. No extra spinning required rk get the high riser. On the trofeo you spin 90 degrees to flat mode, but if you want a riser you have to spin it again.
Sent from my Pixel XL using TGR Forums mobile app
Bookmarks