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Thread: Official ATK Binding Thread
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01-31-2023, 04:19 PM #1751
Great info thanks.
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01-31-2023, 04:20 PM #1752
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01-31-2023, 06:33 PM #1753Galibier Designcrafting technology in service of music
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02-01-2023, 01:39 AM #1754
I probably fall into what ATK describe as the 'speed touring' category. I want light and simple, yet robust. I feel adding a smidge of weight, and a little complexity for better release function is maybe worth it. So my short list is...
ATK Haute route
Dynofit superlite 175
Plum Oaso 8
Sure a Trofeo 8, or a plum R150, would serve me fine. But I dont have any experiance skiing U spring bindings. So I'm hesitant.
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02-01-2023, 09:24 AM #1755Registered User
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Of those only the ATK is not a U-spring. Like Thom said, you lose adjustable vertical release.
Personally I don't U-springs for that reason and I feel like I'm gonna break something stomping in. Also, I like having at least a small adjustment plate so I don't have to remount to change boots. So I the HR works for me and I think it is plenty light.
Reading through the skimoco discussion again, it sounds like maybe the issue is with the BD plate version being slightly different. Given that ATK lists weight without the plate and has holes for it in their paper templates, I'm not convinced that you can't/shouldn't do it. Maybe just a more difficult mount. However, even if you don't think you will change boots its nice to have flexibility.
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02-01-2023, 03:19 PM #1756Registered User
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Mounted my Kuluars today.
As info the crampon holder is kind of a cheap stamped and bent piece that seemed like it was going to hold the toe off the ski a little so I didn’t install it.
If a crampon slot is important to you I’d go with the monolink or FR style toe that has a much nicer machined crampon slot.
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02-01-2023, 03:50 PM #1757
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02-02-2023, 12:25 AM #1758
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02-02-2023, 12:00 PM #1759Registered User
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02-05-2023, 09:05 PM #1760Registered User
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Has anyone experienced their risers flipping down on their own on raider heels/Helio 350 heels while touring? I’ve had it happen a few times now. I’m not hitting it with my pole or other ski or anything like that, my partner behind me has seen it happen on its own.
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02-05-2023, 09:11 PM #1761Registered User
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02-06-2023, 09:28 AM #1762
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02-06-2023, 09:29 AM #1763Registered User
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Can anyone confirm that I can drill the heels and front two screws of the toe pieces of the C-Raider 12s with an M05 jig. I think it's just two holes which have moved so I can reference them from the paper jig once i've located the front holes.
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02-06-2023, 09:48 AM #1764Registered User
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02-06-2023, 01:59 PM #1765Registered User
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That’s exactly it. I have not been doing that and feel like an idiot for not realizing that. Thanks man
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02-06-2023, 02:07 PM #1766
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02-06-2023, 02:15 PM #1767Registered User
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Thought I'd post up here before heading back into the shop. Had some Haute Routes/Helio 200s mounted to some new pow skis. I've noticed that when I'm in walk mode, the toe rotates ~3-4mm which did not occur with this binding on the previous ski (as well as my other setup with the same exact binding). In addition, my heel pieces were rotating while touring with the risers up (maybe due to the twisting of the toe piece?
Is there anything mechanical on the toe piece that would cause this or do you think the toe piece is just not flush with the ski allowing some play? Haven't seen this issue before with other binders.
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02-06-2023, 06:30 PM #1768Registered User
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02-07-2023, 01:48 AM #1769Registered User
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02-13-2023, 10:58 AM #1770
https://cripplecreekbc.com/products/...xoCr54QAvD_BwE
Kastle appears to be selling branded “narrow” freeride spacers, like the ones that come with the fr14 as opposed to the slightly wider al09.
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02-13-2023, 12:07 PM #1771Registered User
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02-13-2023, 02:37 PM #1773Registered User
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Nearly.
If you buy the AL09 now it seems to come with those tabs on the base the same as the AL13 making it wider.
The older FR14 ones didn’t have that. And are like these linked ones.
New FR14 seems to have the tabbed/wider ones.
Only significant if you are putting them on sub 100 skis.
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02-14-2023, 02:31 AM #1774Registered User
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Sorry if this has been asked and answered before, but does current gen FR14 toes have stiffer springs than R12s? Or is the clamping force the same across those bindings (aka one evo models have adjustable release values?) Nm the the three position adjustability thingy.
I have some FR14 toes that are surplus to requirements (the heels aree to be used with Vario.2 toes), and thought about mounting the FR14 toes instead of the MTN toes I will need to remount on two other pairs. Those pairs will get ATKs at some point, so I figured going half way there would be a good start
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02-20-2023, 05:24 PM #1775
Doh! wished i caught this before i took the plunge. I was keying in on a plum pika from tp, then i found a kuluar 12 from Alpinstore that ended up 50+cad cheaper with the code "newsletter" you get when you sign up for their newsletter. I was thinking id add a crampon later. Have you added a toe riser?
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