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  1. #1976
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    Quote Originally Posted by cat in january View Post
    Not happy to hear that as I am looking to install two on new skis to me. I wonder if a dab of silicon caulk on top of the screw heads would stay in place.
    Yeah Iím going to experiment next season.

    I have some 3M abrasion tape that they put on the leading edge of helicopter blades that is very thin, super tough and abrasion resistant.

    Iíll report back.

  2. #1977
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    Slick strips work great on finding screws to keep snow build up down-
    https://www.eplastics.com/accessorie...ck-strips-uhmw
    Hardest part is cutting little circles.
    It’s the same material Voile uses for their anti ice binding covers.

  3. #1978
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan S. View Post
    No personal experience, but even though that race model is slightly lighter, its springless toe design is similar to ATKís heaviest freeride models. So Iím hoping thatís a good sign for being more robust.
    Upon further inspection of the ATK Revolution including placing it up against a regular ATK SL WC: the springless toe design conveys a robust impression, but some elements of the toe unit base are pared down in subtle yet noticeable ways, especially around the screw holes.
    Also noticeable is the stunning beauty of the toe piece. I might even take one out of the box and put it on display in a plastic case in my workshop, as it's that wonderful to behold.
    Mo' skimo here: NE Rando Race Series

  4. #1979
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    looks like an updated haute route will be coming out this season, slightly different heel piece with two risers
    https://www.dpsskis.com/collections/...ps-l10-binding

  5. #1980
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    Helio180 and Dynafit Radical share the same mount pattern, do they not?

    Hoping to reuse some existing holes.

  6. #1981
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    Quote Originally Posted by pfluffenmeister View Post
    Helio180 and Dynafit Radical share the same mount pattern, do they not?

    Hoping to reuse some existing holes.
    Nope, they are both 30mm wide at the toe but have different lengths. Heels are completely different. https://skimo.co/tech-binding-hole-patterns

  7. #1982
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    Quote Originally Posted by pfluffenmeister View Post
    Helio180 and Dynafit Radical share the same mount pattern, do they not?

    Hoping to reuse some existing holes.
    Plum has some versions that do. They also have adjustable heel plates that drops their race heels straight into Radical holes.

  8. #1983
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benneke10 View Post
    Nope, they are both 30mm wide at the toe but have different lengths. Heels are completely different. https://skimo.co/tech-binding-hole-patterns
    Quote Originally Posted by waxoff View Post
    Plum has some versions that do. They also have adjustable heel plates that drops their race heels straight into Radical holes.
    Thank you, gentlemen.

  9. #1984
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    Quote Originally Posted by waxoff View Post
    Plum has some versions that do. They also have adjustable heel plates that drops their race heels straight into Radical holes.
    You're thinking of the 14mm Kreuzspitze plates https://skimo.co/kreuzspitze-adjustment-plates they are compatible with Plum heels. There are no Plum or ATK toe pieces that exactly match the Radical pattern.

  10. #1985
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benneke10 View Post
    You're thinking of the 14mm Kreuzspitze plates https://skimo.co/kreuzspitze-adjustment-plates they are compatible with Plum heels. There are no Plum or ATK toe pieces that exactly match the Radical pattern.
    Plum Guide toes do, no? Guide heels do for sure. Then they have this plate for R170 heels, I have them myself and can confirm they fit Rad heel pattern. http://www.fixation-plum.com/en/acce...wide-rail.html

  11. #1986
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    ^^The Description section for that plate indicates that also Wepa and Pica heels share the Guide/Rad pattern. Dunno about the toes though.

    Edit: yeah, right, Guide toes are same as Vertical four main holes. Meaning the two rear holes from Rad toe mount can be reused

  12. #1987
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    Checking over my gear this morning and a wing on one of my AL09 spacers was missing. No idea how I missed it. If anyone has a single space so I don’t have to buy a set I would be interested. Thanks.


    Edit: I do see that I can buy a single
    Last edited by cat in january; 09-18-2023 at 11:04 AM.

  13. #1988
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    I know itís spendy, but there are ATK/Hagen/BD(other tech binding compatible aswell) jigs available on Hagen right now.

    https://www.haganskimountaineering.c...9a0f1bbc&_ss=r


    Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

  14. #1989
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    Quote Originally Posted by ezgzy View Post
    looks like an updated haute route will be coming out this season, slightly different heel piece with two risers
    https://www.dpsskis.com/collections/...ps-l10-binding
    This is super welcome, the only thing that let me down on the Haute Route is the kinda weird riser shape. The free raider riser style on the lighter binding will be amazing!

  15. #1990
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    I have a question about heel elastic travel in ATK bindings: I've skied the R12 for 3 years now (12mm heel travel) - does it ski (not release) noticeably different than a Haute Route (0mm elastic heel travel)? E.g. much harsher/more feedback? Or is this something you barely notice?
    Last edited by tomh79; 09-24-2023 at 07:59 AM.

  16. #1991
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    Quote Originally Posted by ezgzy View Post
    looks like an updated haute route will be coming out this season, slightly different heel piece with two risers
    https://www.dpsskis.com/collections/...ps-l10-binding
    Thank you! Missed this and was about to pull trigger on current/last year version. Will be stoked with the extra riser for small weight penalty.

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