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Thread: Official ATK Binding Thread
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04-09-2021, 12:40 AM #951Galibier Designcrafting technology in service of music
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04-09-2021, 05:49 AM #952Banned
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Agree to disagree. The bindings are "fine," but I don't understand the hype surrounding them. Their QC is demonstrably not very good, they're shitty communicators, their website is loaded with pseudo-technical info, while lacking in the real kind, they can't maintain a consistent product line for more than 3 months, but they have the resources to sell their bindings to every ski company under the sun to re-badge, etc. I'm going to think long and hard before I buy another pair of them.
The Crest 10's I bought from Spyderjon a couple months ago have silver springs. They did feel a little soft when I've been skiing them, but I assumed that was just because it's a 300g binding and it's inherently not going to ski that well/powerfully. I suppose I should look into getting those springs replaced though.
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04-09-2021, 08:06 AM #953
Ah sorry I see. Yeah tecton/vipecs were my first touring bindings so was a little spoiled with ease of risers.
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04-09-2021, 01:24 PM #954
Yeah, I spent most of two years just skiing Vipecs, and I got pretty used to the convenience of being able to pop my heel and leave my toe in for long skate exits, lock in my heel whenever I wanted to downskin, and access flat mode with just my pole. But they're pretty unique in that regard, it's not a standard feature for touring bindings at all.
That said, after most of a season in Freeraiders, the benefits of ATK's system outweigh those small conveniences, for me at least.
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04-09-2021, 09:34 PM #955
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04-12-2021, 02:51 PM #956
A lot of good info in this thread! I'm looking for a recommendation on the Crest vs Raider for a dedicated touring setup (Volkl Blaze 106 with Maestrale RS boots). I'm 5'10" 165lbs mostly CO meadow skipper with some bigger spring lines (currently running DF Vertical ST's with no complaints). I was planning on getting the Crest until reading about some of the heal piece durability issues and that the Raider may have better/easier riser functionality. Wondering if the Raider is worth the extra cost and more durable in the long run? (I don't care about the small weight penalty)
Side question: Would the Raider be an acceptable resort ski on a soft day? My primary goal is a dedicated touring setup, but it might be nice to have the option for hiking up and riding lifts in the morning.
Appreciate any feedback. Cheers!
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04-12-2021, 03:02 PM #957King potato
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04-14-2021, 10:46 AM #958
So how do you hand test the compensation spring? I have a pair of helio 350 mounted I can move the heel aft with some force, not a ton. And a pair of unmounted fr14 that I can not get to move holding in two hands and applying as much pressure as I wish for unmounted bindings. May do a 2x4 mount to check. Short question maybe is, did any springs make it into the rear brake raider heel?
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04-14-2021, 06:22 PM #959
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04-15-2021, 09:21 AM #960Registered User
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04-15-2021, 09:30 AM #961
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04-15-2021, 09:39 AM #962Registered User
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ah yes...does ring a bell! I think Dynafit sued them? Don't know if it's even possible to patent a drilling pattern?!?!
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04-15-2021, 11:37 AM #963
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04-15-2021, 12:00 PM #964Galibier Designcrafting technology in service of music
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04-15-2021, 07:42 PM #965
ATK Kuluar just dropped: https://prime-skiing.de/atk-bindings...2022-pid55993/
Looks like they took the Crest and swapped out the heelpiece for a U-spring with adjustable lateral release, keeping the 10mm elasticity and brake compatibility. Weighs 200g without the brake, ~30g lighter than the Crest.
And some new info on the Freeraider 16: https://prime-skiing.de/atk-bindings...2022-pid55981/
It comes with their new 4mm Raider toe shim and the Freeride spacer stock. The engineers at ATK must have consulted with the genius minds over at Moment to figure out how to raise the toe piece by a few mm, because when you look at how they talk about the Voyager you'd think it was rocket science..
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04-15-2021, 10:42 PM #966
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04-16-2021, 07:09 AM #967Registered User
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Hmmm, same weight essentially as the rt10, would be nice while going lighter if they used the rt toe to drop it to 180 or 190g with the ERS. I'd be interested in that
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04-16-2021, 07:19 AM #968
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04-16-2021, 12:22 PM #969
It's getting to the point where they should just start having a "binding builder" table: pick toe piece X and heelpiece Y.
...ThomGalibier Designcrafting technology in service of music
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04-16-2021, 12:46 PM #970
That would make a lot more sense...
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04-16-2021, 02:21 PM #971
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04-16-2021, 02:32 PM #972
I think you should "design" a new color that ATK can subsequently adopt.
Here's a start: https://www.w3schools.com/colors/colors_picker.aspLast edited by galibier_numero_un; 04-16-2021 at 05:12 PM.
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04-16-2021, 03:27 PM #973
We never said we "designed" a toe shim. I don't know why you always have to make some dick comment to anything I write in this thread...
We pushed to have a modification made to the binding that many people have to deal with in the aftermarket world.
It's not a revolutionary design change, we didn't come up with the concept, but we did push ATK to make this change for us because we prefer less ramp in our bindings and feel that the general population of skiers will prefer a pin binding with less ramps whether they know it or not.
Now they are implementing this modification into their production bindings and we think that is pretty cool. Hopefully with this momentum we will see more brands make touring bindings where a flatter stance is the standard.
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04-16-2021, 08:16 PM #974
Well, as I said in this thread back in October, congratulations on bringing ATKs into the country. So, I'll say it again: congratulations on bringing ATKs into the country.
The reason I was yanking your chain is the same reason I do it to several friends who are in sales. They can't seem to "turn it off". They're always "on" (performing). I still like 'em, but I give them hell when they try to blow smoke up my kilt with market speak.
You and @spyderjon are my top two referrals to friends for ATKs (no disrespect to Hagan, but fuggedaboud Black Diamond). I suppose the next pair of "Raiders" I get, I'll have to get some 4mm heel shim material to restore the 11mm delta (just kidding ... 7-11mm is in my sweet spot ... Vipecs @11 ski fine for me, as do my "flatter" Helio 200s).
Peace,
ThomLast edited by galibier_numero_un; 04-16-2021 at 09:05 PM.
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04-16-2021, 08:52 PM #975
im gonna git a pair of voyagers
whether the uno dork posts about em or doesnt or signs his posts like their a fuckin letter or anybody care wtf his name is
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