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  1. #1
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    Black Crows Solis Ski Reviews

    Has anyone spent enough time on the Black Crows Solis to provide a solid review?

    There are aren't many reviews out there for these skis and some of the info provided by Black Crows is a little odd / concerning. Julien Regnier gives an interview on the Solis (https://www.blackmail.ski/en/tech-en...here-was-light), where he states:

    It is really quite a powerful ski, so you should really put good kit on this ski so that it can express all its qualities. So, if you fix bindings which are too supple at the back, the boot will tend to want to release and finally, won’t ski well because the binding is always on the move. This ski transmits a lot of energy so it is useless to associate it with floating bindings. There is a force in this ski. It is a highly specialised ski but lots of friends want to try it. So, I tell them that it isn’t for them. But nothing to do, the guy answers me: “I don’t care, I want to ski it”.
    Given this info, I am particularly interested to get reviews from people who have skied these with tech bindings.

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    Sounds pretty good for that usage. 100 underfoot with longer radius , stiff underfoot and good rocker to be out of the way. All about edge contact underfoot. Too much sidecut takes away edge pressure underfoot. Doesnt say anything about camber. Also crious about what he means by "substantial kit". Soft skis and pintech heels can be a problem but id think these would be ok. Maybe he means an alpine heel to be fully engaged with the ski. Be nice to see the full numbers too

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    There were a couple folks here in another thread on the 173, which surprised me. I guess it's a handful. I am very seriously considering splurging on the 180 for a late March/April/May scare-yourself-steep ski.

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    I've got about 7 days on my 173s. I'm 5'8" 140 w/o gear. They're sweet. The "super stiff" bullshit in that article is just that. I've got dfit verticals on them and have managed not to die yet . The camber is REALLY slight. Damn near flat, but just enough. Perfect for what I want. Due to life and weather, I haven't done any firm couloir skiing on them yet. Have slain corn, shallow powder and packed pow and dig them. They ski like a real ski and not a tinny carbon chatter fest, but they BETTER given that they're not light. The mount (pretty sure it's -8) feels a little forward to me on less steep stuff, but they ski fine there and once things steepen up, that balance points works for me.

    I have no idea what skins are supposed to attach to that logo cutout at the tip - even the ones BC sells for the Solis look like they're just a typical loop at the tip.

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    Black Crows Solis Ski Reviews

    I skied with a few Black Crows guys in Italy when theyd just announced the Solis. Both skied the 173 + F1s and were absolutely hauling ass. Very impressed with its ability to handle conditions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andyski View Post
    I have no idea what skins are supposed to attach to that logo cutout at the tip - even the ones BC sells for the Solis look like they're just a typical loop at the tip.
    Skins sold for the Solis are equipped with a special hook fitting this cuttout.

    Solis are not light but definitely not heavy. Mount them with ATK R12 or FR14 and it's a real good combo for steep.
    Quite stiff, solid underfoot, very good edge hold. Turn initiation is easy due to tip rocker. Tail is solid but not grabby. A really good mountain ski.

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    Quote Originally Posted by east bear fr View Post
    Skins sold for the Solis are equipped with a special hook fitting this cuttout.
    Even their own web site says it's a tip loop and shows photos of a standard loop (on a different ski, too) on the product page for the skins, so thanks for the update. Just saw that the page for ski does show some connecty tip thing. Downside: that's cool because the tip is a bit of pain to fit a tip loop on centered. Upside: I look like slightly less of a brand whore.

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    Oooh it's a fun ski! Mounted mine over the weekend. Please bear in mind these are like 1.5lbs per ski heavier than my ordinary skis, so take my comments with a hefty dose of salt. But boy they are fun. Skied them in some mid winter quality steep Wasatch powder, they plane up well and feel ridiculously stable compared to my other sticks. Made a few tight jump turns (albeit in soft snow) and they were pleasantly obedient, which is what I was after. Tip rocker is perrrrrrfect, long and low. I'll get some pics later. The tip rocker every ski should have imo. Tail rocker is similar, maybe just a touch more splay than I'd prefer. Rocker profile is quite similar to the Down LD90 but with less tip rise. More camber than you'd think looking at them online. They are stiff; I haven't skied new alpine skis in over a decade so can't really compare them, but substantially stiffer than anything I've been on recently (Praxis #3 flex for example). Slick looking too.

    Time will tell, but so far so good.

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    Where'd you mount them? Recommended?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyskirat View Post
    Where'd you mount them? Recommended?
    yeah, more or less... I ended up at like +0.4ish maybe because I found it inexplicably tricky to eyeball boot center from the height the boot sits over the binding (though I measured so the mounts are even with each other). It's a kinda progressive mount per my understanding of what that means, but I like that. The low tip rocker and overall stiffness means there's more in front of you than it seems like when you compare to other skis, or at least when you compare it to my other skis. About the same amount of ski in front of the toepiece as my 177 Movement Response-X, which is a comparatively traditional mount. More in front than my 179 Praxis Wootest, which was a very progressive mount I felt.

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    edit for updated rocker pics, which make no sense in this post, but here they are

    edit again to add: still unable to find a speed limit on these...

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    what boots are you guys using with these? too much for something like a beefed up tlt6 (power wrap + booster strap)? or other similar boots. been lusting about these for a while and trying to justify them.

    for references, i can drive 185 black crows navis in good snow with the TLT's, in more variable snow they can be a bit challenging at times. i've been years on the the 180 praxis backcountry with no problem with those boots.

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    Black Crows Solis Ski Reviews

    Im on Tecnica ZeroG Tour Pros, my other boots are Fischer Carbon Travers. The Travers I dont think would cut the mustard. ZGTPs obviously are great. Beefed up TLT6P, I dunno, I guess it depends what youre used to and how balanced you are. Its a pretty stiff ski (at 180) but not unmanageable or anything. I suspect to ski hard in steep bad snow (which is what I got these for personally) youd need more boot though.

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