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02-16-2020, 01:39 PM #26
Some can be run backwards (Doppelmayr and Yan, for instance), but it's not like putting a car in reverse. It's generally only used by maintenance. Where I worked they'd use forward and backward for removing all the chairs for summer storage.
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02-16-2020, 01:44 PM #27
@ Bunion, did you guys ever have to do that in normal ops?
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02-16-2020, 01:50 PM #28
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02-16-2020, 01:56 PM #29
the 2009 article mentions they backed up the chair to get him down.
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02-16-2020, 02:51 PM #30indentured servant
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02-16-2020, 03:00 PM #31
I wonder if he broke his neck when he fell. 4 minutes is a lot without oxygen but still in the survivability realm.
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02-16-2020, 03:12 PM #32
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02-16-2020, 03:16 PM #33
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02-16-2020, 03:17 PM #34
1+ Yes one should definitely turn around while loading . I'm thinking my first reaction would be to put the seat down ( which I've had to do many years ago, not detachable though ) but if not successful bail off to the side . I guess if he wasn't turned around and was distracted that would explain the accident . Still it's the liftys job first and foremost !
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02-16-2020, 04:34 PM #35Jacket Cobbler
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i was a lifty @ vail on #37 , back in the day as well as most if not all of the bsb lifts (fav was mongolia surface) anywayz...not that this is the skiers fault in the least (vibes+++++) detachable grip chairs are comin at ya at about mach 000 nuthin...so if you fall thru, its happening while still in the box, and slow speed, plenty of time for liftee inside shack to hit the stop button, they r supposed to be watching, if not, its dereliction of duty.....not to mention that back in the day there were usually 2 liftees down at the bottom ( one up top), one should have been outside flippin seats, and rakin the box, clearing the maze, greating the guest, etc...this is more likely partial fault of lift foreman not keepin after liftees to do their jobs... possible 3rd liftee was rotating up or taking a lap...stop/run controls outside and inside lift shack...sucks all round for everyone affected...too many other ways to get taken out in the snow...this should not be one of them
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02-16-2020, 04:37 PM #36
^yup
If one sits down on a detachable chair with the seat up, some of the blame falls on guest
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02-16-2020, 04:48 PM #37Jacket Cobbler
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^ i think your post was in ref to #34.....
anywayzz.....
even in bsb two liftees down ...(memory coming back) because if there was a kid loading...we had to slow the lift and physically get behind the chair and pull the kid into it even if his parents or guardians or whatever were trying to b responsible for loadin him or her....or multiples....this was requirement rulz part of the job....even if someone was rotating ....one person could perform this action...
the guest is not responsible for flippin a chair ever....most guests ,public most likely wouldnt even quite understand that the cushion flips down...they would just see a big gap opening and freak out....one needs to think about this accident like a layman...the bottom of a chair seat does not look like the top, it would most likely not register with someone in from nj or anywhere to know that they needed to flip a seat...did not say if there were multiple ppl loading, that would further the opportunity for distraction to the skier tho...vibes...www.freeridesystems.com
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02-16-2020, 04:52 PM #38
The fact that the seats don’t lock down during daytime operations is astounding to me after the ‘09 incident.
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02-16-2020, 04:56 PM #39
MiCol gets it. In my time as a lifty in Telluride the worst was working a chair that had latches to keep the pad flipped down. Inevitably there were a few chairs with broken latches that would surprise you when one came through the terminal flipped up.
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02-16-2020, 05:08 PM #40
I disagree with this. You go to sit down, and your ass drops 14 inches lower than you expect, you're in ski boots and being pushed forward by the lift. Not all skiing public have the skill, dexterity or strength to recover from this position.
Like that skier you see fall down in the seated on their tails position and can't stand up and continue to travel downhill until they side out sideways to stop.
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02-16-2020, 05:10 PM #41
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02-16-2020, 05:15 PM #42
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02-16-2020, 05:36 PM #43
I think heavy magnets would solve this problem for the most part. Yes, it would take a bit more effort for the lifty flipping seats at the end of the night, but could be strong enough to not be flipped by the wind. Also, no mechanical parts/latches to fail. How this hasn't been a thing for 30 years already is beyond me.
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02-16-2020, 05:40 PM #44
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02-16-2020, 05:42 PM #45
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02-16-2020, 07:01 PM #46
WOW! Horrible.
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02-16-2020, 07:31 PM #47
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02-16-2020, 08:00 PM #48Registered User
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Vail has been looking for liftys for sometime and have been understaffed all season to my knowledge. When they let the accountants and such go at the start of the season they offered them Kitty positions.
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02-16-2020, 08:03 PM #49Registered User
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02-16-2020, 08:06 PM #50
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