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    Gold Label re-glue still sticking to bases

    Have some 8 year old G3 Alpinist skins whose glue recently shit the bed. A gloppy and sticky mess that stuck to everything. I removed damn near every bit of old glue using the paper bag method, and then re-glued with Gold Label. Admittedly I did not apply as thin of a new layer as I had hoped, so there is a little bit of bubbling happening on one of the skins.

    I'm finding that the Gold Label re-glue is still sticking to my bases in areas. So now I'm thinking I should do one pass with the paper bag method again to thin out the new layer. Would this work? Any advice on how to fix?

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    How long since you waxed your skis? A bare base can be more problematic than a well waxed one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3PinGrin View Post
    How long since you waxed your skis? A bare base can be more problematic than a well waxed one.
    Brand new skis...factory wax I guess. Good thought, I will wax and re-check.

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    This is a really good vid that folks should bookmark it shows both tube and sheet glue replacement


    I always use tubes of gold label cuz its 1/3rd the price of sheet and it ends up the same, I always scrape all the old glue off with a heat gun and putty knife, I evenly spread 1 tube between 2 skins cover with parchment ( not wax paper ) paper and I heat it in at 320F

    I never use paper bags and don't even think about newspaper

    How much glue did you use ?

    Did you heat the glue in with an iron ?

    how hot was the iron ?

    assuming the glue you put down was done right ironing it again can't hurt, cover with parchment paper & iron with a medium hot clothes iron
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    This is a really good vid that folks should bookmark it shows both tube and sheet glue replacement


    I always use tubes of gold label cuz its 1/3rd the price of sheet and it ends up the same, I always scrape all the old glue off with a heat gun and putty knife, I evenly spread 1 tube between 2 skins cover with parchment ( not wax paper ) paper and I heat it in at 320F

    I never use paper bags and don't even think about newspaper

    How much glue did you use ?

    Did you heat the glue in with an iron ?

    how hot was the iron ?

    assuming the glue you put down was done right ironing it again can't hurt, cover with parchment paper & iron with a medium hot clothes iron
    The paper bag method worked quite well to remove the old glue. I used about a half tube of new glue for 185cm length / 110mm waist.

    I did not heat the new glue in -- the instructions did not mention it. After removing the old glue, I followed this video exactly:


    I've been folding the skins together repeatedly this morning and that seems to be helping a bit...

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    Yeah the instructions with the tube of gold label don't say anything about heat, in that vid Andrew Maclean doesn't use heat, in the vid I posted the guy does use heat, I think you will find other instruction vids that use heat and I have always used heat

    it sounds like your glue is not completely stuck to the back of the skin, so maybe heat would work it into the back of the skin and heat would level out the glue for sure

    as for the quantity of glue the amount you used does not sound excessive, I always use one tube between 2 skins so 1/2 a tube per skin

    in that Vid I posted the guy puts painters tape 1/2 covering the plush on each edge which I liked, a good idea for keeping glue off the bench
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

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    the one reglue I did years ago in telepariah's now gone man-cave, we did use heat, it made the new glue smooth as glass.
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    yeah if you use the skin glue backing that came off the skins when new ...the glue will look like new

    but those sheets only last so long before they rip, parchement is in the baking section at safeway, tends to be a little more of a matte finish but once you put them togetehr it doesnt matter ... yer only a Virgin once eh

    some body on TGR suggested you don't need parchment or the original skin backing so I tried it on messy skins that needed rejuvenating, not much glue ended up on the iron and it worked fine really but i think for a new application ( or if you don't really know what you are doing ) I recommend the parchment to get the glue smoovved out and level

    really you are trying to get that glue even/well stuck to the skin/ not sticking to your ski
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

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