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  1. #376
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    Visited the Alf Engen Ski Museum yesterday at the Olympic Training Center in Park City. A good thing to do on an off day. Anyhoo, the "Father of Utah Skiing" Joe Quinney strived to ensure skiing "was not a rich man's sport." And Alf Engen always liked to remind people in the lift line that "We are the luckiest people in the world."

    Just some thoughts to keep in mind. Go out and have some fun. If you can't find it at the resorts, then learn to backcountry or do something else that puts a smile on your face.

    Bonus photo of Alan Engen (Alf's son) slaying the Alta pow


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  2. #377
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    And Alf Engen always liked to remind people in the lift line that "We are the luckiest people in the world because we lived before this place got so fucking busy"
    FIFY
    Ooof!

  3. #378
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    Let's do some livin'
    After, we die

  4. #379
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunion 2020 View Post
    How about raising the price of an IKON pass to the same price $ 1550.00 and then lets see it the problems with overcrowding on big days continues?
    Agree

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    Driving up the LCC today around 930ish which is usually prime time ikonic shitshow in the LCC, on Sunday of Perz weekend powder day. ChaseB can verify the time.

    #Fucktheikonpass
    #LCCikonfree

  6. #381
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    Blackout day?
    Ooof!

  7. #382
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunion 2020 View Post
    Blackout day?
    Yep - it really is very noticeable


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  9. #384
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunion 2020 View Post
    Blackout day?
    Big Sky had very reasonable "crowds" this weekend that likely enhanced the guest experience of those visiting from out of town. I would be curious to know the yield from this weekend versus the weekend before that was insanely crowded.

  10. #385
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    Literally less than half the people here at Jackson this weekend compared to last. Just as deep also so now snow report schenanigans juicing visits.

    I have a late start today so we'll see if the trend holds once I get out there.
    Live Free or Die

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    Less crowded on blackout days has been going on since long before ikon passes. Weekend crowds are mostly locals.

    If I travel on my ikon pass I'm most likely to fly in on sunday and out on Saturday so I'm responsible for midweek crowing, not weekends. I suspect a lot of others do the same.

  12. #387
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    Jackson just started blackouts this year on their bypass I believe, I def didnt have the option before. They also nixed the weekend pass so its a 7/10 day or full pass.
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  13. #388
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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    Less crowded on blackout days has been going on since long before ikon passes. Weekend crowds are mostly locals.

    If I travel on my ikon pass I'm most likely to fly in on sunday and out on Saturday so I'm responsible for midweek crowing, not weekends. I suspect a lot of others do the same.
    in reality, a significant percentage of visitors book long weekend trips flying thursday-tuesday, or they drive in over the weekend. since you're in truckee, I guess everything except SLC is probably a bitch of a drive. not sure if you're retired or not, but many working travelers can book lots of flights on points and try to avoid burning too many vacation days. multiple short ski trips. and passholders who ski weekends at a nearby resort can ski on weekends near home and then occasionally come up for long weekends to a different resort since it's free.

    this conversation would be more productive if resorts leaked their data, but I guess anecdotes will have to do for now. but yes, ikon has led to noticeable midweek crowding too, not just epic weekend pow days, but also garbage hardpack wednesdays. the blackouts make a difference. don't diminish it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LesterSmoove View Post
    garbage hardpack wednesdays
    Wasn't that a Replacements album?

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    Less crowded on blackout days has been going on since long before ikon passes. Weekend crowds are mostly locals.

    If I travel on my ikon pass I'm most likely to fly in on sunday and out on Saturday so I'm responsible for midweek crowing, not weekends. I suspect a lot of others do the same.
    I got ya as way more likely to stay home and make a dozen or so long winded expert posts on the interwebz
    then nap time
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    Quote Originally Posted by LesterSmoove View Post
    garbage hardpack wednesdays.
    Quote Originally Posted by EWG View Post
    Wasn't that a Replacements album?
    As a core Mats fan I want to say, color me impressed.
    And I guess that I just don't know

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    Quote Originally Posted by LesterSmoove View Post
    in reality, a significant percentage of visitors book long weekend trips flying thursday-tuesday, or they drive in over the weekend. since you're in truckee, I guess everything except SLC is probably a bitch of a drive. not sure if you're retired or not, but many working travelers can book lots of flights on points and try to avoid burning too many vacation days. multiple short ski trips. and passholders who ski weekends at a nearby resort can ski on weekends near home and then occasionally come up for long weekends to a different resort since it's free.
    Some, yes, but not enough to account for the weekend crowds. They could do away with IKON and the crowds will still be there and you all will have to find something or someone else to blame rather than accepting that the crowds are people like you and me.

    Meanwhile--ski and skate week here. Ankle biters everywhere. Used to be a pain dodging all of them. Now they're dodging me.
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