It's too crowded, no one goes there anymore

[Dantheman]

I had no idea wasatch peaks ranch was planning on building next year. Call me a skeptic, but I’d be surprised. Yellowstone club has had more than its share of issues over the years.


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It's not a good sign that, despite there being rad peaks where the resort will actually be, the background photo on their homepage is Superior.

[skaredshtles]

So what we've learned is that sometimes resorts will be crowded as fuck. And most of the time they'll be empty. And the crowded-as-fuck times are almost always pretty predictable.

So what's the problem, again?

[whyturn]

I blame global warning. Everyone is leaving the warm areas


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[toast2266]

Long lift lines means that plenty of people retire to the bar early. So not only does Vail get their $200 for lift tickets, but they can wring $8 / beer out of them too. I'm sure they're apologizing all the way to the bank.

[brutah]

Long lift lines means that plenty of people retire to the bar early. So not only does Vail get their $200 for lift tickets, but they can wring $8 / beer out of them too. I'm sure they're apologizing all the way to the bank.

Exactly, Rob Katz and Alterra CEO answer to shareholders not season pass holders.

[Name Redacted]

Long lift lines means that plenty of people retire to the bar early. So not only does Vail get their $200 for lift tickets, but they can wring $8 / beer out of them too. I'm sure they're apologizing all the way to the bank.

I paid $8 for a fucking Voodoo Ranger made by some shitty Austrailian owned brewery out of Fort Collins. It was disgusting, and they wouldn't even pour me a proper shot, they had to "cut" it with some water.

[jmedslc]

So what we've learned is that sometimes resorts will be crowded as fuck. And most of the time they'll be empty. And the crowded-as-fuck times are almost always pretty predictable.

So what's the problem, again?

Traffic, parking, assholes in the line, dumbasses on the runs and the traverses, know nothing’s in the slack country. Is that a good enough summary of “the problem” for you?

[skaredshtles]

Traffic, parking, assholes in the line, dumbasses on the runs and the traverses, know nothing’s in the slack country. Is that a good enough summary of “the problem” for you?

Is this all the time... or just on the predictable crowded-as-fuck days? Just curious.

[skaredshtles]

I paid $8 for a fucking Voodoo Ranger made by some shitty Austrailian owned brewery out of Fort Collins. It was disgusting, and they wouldn't even pour me a proper shot, they had to "cut" it with some water.

You bought a watered down shot of Voodoo Ranger?

That's weird.

NTTAWWT.

[babybear]

So what we've learned is that sometimes resorts will be crowded as fuck. And most of the time they'll be empty. And the crowded-as-fuck times are almost always pretty predictable.

So what's the problem, again?

yup
and this is why it's ok living there.
it's like living on the beach- you avoid the big holiday weekends and then have paradise to yourself most of the rest of the time
it's mildly annoying, but I'm ok with it vs the alternative of being one of the tourists for that one or two crowded w/e's a year

[TBS]

For what it's worth...

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I’m struggling with the concept of more visitors at Southeastern resorts than PNW...

[BobMc]

Around here it’s predictable by how much it snows. So, if you only want to ski loud pow days you’re good. If you want to ski pow it’s gonna be a problem. Don’t make much matter to me as I’m there either day anyways, but it kinda sucks to root against pow days.

[Benny Profane]

Thanks, Harv, for reminding me of this:

[wickstad]

Anyone mention the ganja angle yet?

[wickstad]

It is the back bowls right?

[zion zig zag]

It's not a good sign that, despite there being rad peaks where the resort will actually be, the background photo on their homepage is Superior.

Ha, some marketers are lazy as fuck. I follow some random Instagram account from the Tetons and they posted a photo of Banff National Park the other day with a caption about the Tetons. I mean, it's the Tetons, it's not like they couldn't stand on their on feet.

[fantastic_damage]

Video of the Vail Chair 5 shit show:

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Oh not a fan of the truth? Do you think Pow Mow does the same numbers as Vail?

I don't Pow Mow has ever sold out of day tickets even though they say there's a "limit," and yes, DV does regularly on holidays, but they're only limiting day tickets. They don't turn away season pass holders as is being suggested above. You want to limit people on the slopes? increase the cost, which I think is the shittier of the two evils here.

Either way, everyone here is criticizing the most successful ski resorts in the industry..... I don't think limiting skier numbers is in the cards. Like I said above, long lift lines look like success in the ski industry. You want a different experience go ski cooper

As Benny says to a service industry. You think the fat cats of Vail who drop $20k plus on a week of skiing want to hang out in ridiculous lines with the riff-raff? Or get yelled at by locals as they skip the line with their guide or instructor? You think Katz doesn’t care if a few hundred of them never come back? If Vail is seen By the rich as the McDonalds of skiing - with billions served! - it’s not a good look. He may not give a shit about pass holders who drink beers in the parking lot and bring sack lunches, true. I agree he’s probably really happy to have an overcrowded problem but to say ski resorts don’t care about service and only numbers is naive.

As for the limited tix stuff, all I did was point a dude in a direction on where they limited tix as he asked how it works and what do they do for people booking trips. I didn’t offer my opinion on it. You are righ that powwow does it as a gimmick mainly. But they did sell out this past year after x-mas and DV sold out Saturday around noon...not a holiday. DV is certainly Vail-like.

[Benny Profane]

PowMow sold out, at least, this last Saturday and Sunday.

[Benny Profane]

As Benny says to a service industry. You think the fat cats of Vail who drop $20k plus on a week of skiing want to hang out in ridiculous lines with the riff-raff? Or get yelled at by locals as they skip the line with their guide or instructor? You think Katz doesn’t care if a few hundred of them never come back? If Vail is seen By the rich as the McDonalds of skiing - with billions served! - it’s not a good look. He may not give a shit about pass holders who drink beers in the parking lot and bring sack lunches, true. I agree he’s probably really happy to have an overcrowded problem but to say ski resorts don’t care about service and only numbers is naive.

As for the limited tix stuff, all I did was point a dude in a direction on where they limited tix as he asked how it works and what do they do for people booking trips. I didn’t offer my opinion on it. You are righ that powwow does it as a gimmick mainly. But they did sell out this past year after x-mas and DV sold out Saturday around noon...not a holiday. DV is certainly Vail-like.

Nobody eats lunch or drinks beer in the Vail parking spot they paid 25-40 bucks for.

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I was a bit scared when I saw you replied to this, I was afraid you were going to agree completely with my post and that’s how I’d know I was wrong and brutah is right.

[jaja111]

This seems less about liftlines and more a general planetary overcrowding issue. Now if people would just stop fucking for a little while.....

I think ikonic pass systems contribute to the problem, but the fucking is the root issue. On that note, since I believe fucking really won't diminish in popularity, my trip to Jackson in two weeks is likely my last "resort quality guest experience" week long ski trip. Hell, its even buffered on both ends by GTarghee on the drive in and possibly Soldier on the return to "cleanse my palate".

I've always had a more memorable time, experience per se, at small under the radar nonchic nor instacrap worthy hills. Jackson is a return to something I failed at 20 years ago being a kid from western NY (65° weather didn't help either). Different skier, different person, and I'll deal with trying to mitigate crowds (alarms set for 5am, dehydrated camping bfast cookout in tram line, etc), but I'm also gonna people watch.. enjoy a few drinks.. talk to some different people from wildly different places... and try to chill, set those expectations pretty low. Enjoy not being at work.

Gnar shredding is all bonus for 5 days in a mega resort these days, and its highly likely at a fixed grip starbucksless no cell signal joint in east boondockbuttfuck.

I feel sorry for anyone who has a disneyland shitshow on wknds for their local hill.

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[Truckee Joe]

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[SkiBall]

Saturdays are busy, snow is cold. There are going to be lift lines on Saturday. Getting that huge and pretty rare storm, they just couldn't safely open the whole mountain. It was a big visitor day but it wasn't monumental. That just all got stuck doing the same shit instead of spreading out.
And they will be back this weekend when not blacked out.

[123ski]

Oh not a fan of the truth? Do you think Pow Mow does the same numbers as Vail?

I don't Pow Mow has ever sold out of day tickets even though they say there's a "limit," and yes, DV does regularly on holidays, but they're only limiting day tickets. They don't turn away season pass holders as is being suggested above. You want to limit people on the slopes? increase the cost, which I think is the shittier of the two evils here.

Either way, everyone here is criticizing the most successful ski resorts in the industry..... I don't think limiting skier numbers is in the cards. Like I said above, long lift lines look like success in the ski industry. You want a different experience go ski cooper

I think pow mow has sold out over 8 times this season


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