RIP to John, Keri, and Alyssa Altobelli, Christina Mauser, Sarah and Payton Chester, Ara Zobayan, and Gianna Bryant

**Danno** · 01-27-2020, 08:42 AM

RIP to John, Keri, and Alyssa Altobelli, Christina Mauser, Sarah and Payton Chester, Ara Zobayan, and Gianna Bryant. They died in a terrible helicopter crash yesterday. Condolences to their friends and family and loved ones.

**I Skied Bandini Mountain** · 01-27-2020, 08:47 AM

C'mon man.

**Danno** · 01-27-2020, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by I Skied Bandini Mountain

C'mon man.

If the criticism in the other thread is that lots of other people died and we should be sad for them, then let's actually be sad for them, rather than actually be sad that a famous athlete died, but hide behind those other people when called on that athlete's character. How many of these names did you know?

**jm2e** · 01-27-2020, 09:13 AM

Wasn't it pretty much agreed that he raped a girl and paid her off? I don't follow sports.

**Timberridge** · 01-27-2020, 09:21 AM

You forgot the pilot.

**Danno** · 01-27-2020, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Timberridge

You forgot the pilot.

I posted all the names I could find. Will edit if you have another name.

**Vt-Freeheel** · 01-27-2020, 10:39 AM

ARA ZOBAYAN was the pilot. RIP

**old goat** · 01-27-2020, 11:58 AM

The wise thing to do is to let Danno talk to himself.

**Cruiser** · 01-27-2020, 01:08 PM

People make similar remarks about every inane dsm thread and yet they always generate the clicks. Don't hate the playa hate the sand that gets into inopportune places...

**stuckathuntermtn** · 01-27-2020, 01:09 PM

But man throw ball well

**mcski** · 01-27-2020, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by Vt-Freeheel

ARA ZOBAYAN was the pilot. RIP

Sounds kinda ethnic

**jm2e** · 01-27-2020, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by mcski

Sounds kinda ethnic

Probably an Islamo-Terrorist.

**PNWbrit** · 01-27-2020, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by mcski

Sounds kinda ethnic

Originally Posted by jm2e

Probably an Islamo-Terrorist.

Or

**BmillsSkier** · 01-27-2020, 01:58 PM

I bet you didn’t get stuck behind him for miles in no passing zones while he aimlessly drifts from one side of the sky to the other as he tries to manage 4 dash-mounted smart phones though.

**PNWbrit** · 01-27-2020, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by BmillsSkier

I bet you didn’t get stuck behind him for miles in no passing zones while he aimlessly drifts from one side of the sky to the other as he tries to manage 4 dash-mounted smart phones though.

They go through extensive 30 minute training at Uber pilot school.

**SkiBall** · 01-27-2020, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by jm2e

Wasn't it pretty much agreed that he raped a girl and paid her off? I don't follow sports.

I have heard some alternative facts. But time since hearing and not dredging up the past especially right now and putting it out there, I will leave it be.
Tldr: Allegedly.

**k2skier112** · 01-28-2020, 04:55 PM

These lives are no less important than Kobe's. Athletes shouldn't be held up on pedestals. The average person who has to grind out a life is more valuable to society than overpaid athletes

**stuckathuntermtn** · 01-29-2020, 12:02 AM

Anyone else keep thinking this says RIP John Keri etc?

**toast2266** · 01-29-2020, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by k2skier112

These lives are no less important than Kobe's. Athletes shouldn't be held up on pedestals. The average person who has to grind out a life is more valuable to society than overpaid athletes

Really?

So the fry cook at your local McDonald's is more valuable than the guy who works his ass off and becomes one of the best at what he does? Athletes very well may be overpaid, but there's no denying that many of them have worked harder and achieved far more than the average schmuck.

While that doesn't necessarily mean their lives are worth more, it definitely means that their societal importance is greater. If they die, the ripple effect of their death travels far, far further than the fry cook. Even putting aside the "fans," when a famous athlete dies, huge numbers of people are affected - sports personalities are a big business. By pretty much any metric, the athlete is more important to society.

**TahoeJ** · 01-29-2020, 08:31 AM

No one is overpaid. The market pays what it pays. Actually, you could argue that NBA super duper stars like Kobe are actually underpaid due to the salary cap.

Kobe was a piece of shit but also, I think, a really good father and had a lot of other great qualities as well. People are complex and can be both of these things. My friend has been the director / producer of the NBA 2K video game for the past 10-15 years and spent a decent amount of time with him, along with guys like LeBron and other top players. The Colorado thing always lingered in the back of his mind but says all of his interactions with Kobe were great and he genuinely liked and admired him as a human being. It's confusing for sure.

**skifishbum** · 01-29-2020, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by TahoeJ

No one is overpaid. The market pays what it pays. Actually, you could argue that NBA super duper stars like Kobe are actually underpaid due to the salary cap.

Kobe was a piece of shit but also, I think, a really good father and had a lot of other great qualities as well. People are complex and can be both of these things. My friend has been the director / producer of the NBA 2K video game for the past 10-15 years and spent a decent amount of time with him, along with guys like LeBron and other top players. The Colorado thing always lingered in the back of his mind but says all of his interactions with Kobe were great and he genuinely liked and admired him as a human being. It's confusing for sure.

he was no mike never will be but the guy had drive and skills and vibes to those he touched and the sad op that needed to make this thread
ive never shared a chopper with the better 1/2 either
we are always on separate flights when we go poor folk heli skiing aka hut trips

**Core Shot** · 01-29-2020, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn

Anyone else keep thinking this says RIP John Keri etc?

Yes.
But senator Herman Munster will not die. He looks to be full of embalming fluid already

**ill-advised strategy** · 01-29-2020, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by Core Shot

Yes.
But senator Herman Munster will not die. He looks to be full of embalming fluid already

#ketchup

**AdironRider** · 01-29-2020, 09:52 AM

**grskier** · 01-29-2020, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by TahoeJ

No one is overpaid. The market pays what it pays. Actually, you could argue that NBA super duper stars like Kobe are actually underpaid due to the salary cap.

Kobe was a piece of shit but also, I think, a really good father and had a lot of other great qualities as well. People are complex and can be both of these things. My friend has been the director / producer of the NBA 2K video game for the past 10-15 years and spent a decent amount of time with him, along with guys like LeBron and other top players. The Colorado thing always lingered in the back of his mind but says all of his interactions with Kobe were great and he genuinely liked and admired him as a human being. It's confusing for sure.

This is the best take so far.