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01-25-2022, 03:20 PM #39101Registered User
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Vermont has a good break down of vaxxed/unvaxxed including by age.
https://www.healthvermont.gov/covid-...case-dashboard
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01-25-2022, 03:22 PM #39102
From what I understand, most scientist think that if Omicron is it, and no other immunity evading variant comes out of the woods, then more shots will not be necessary. But no one can realistically forecast whether Omicron is it. There seems to be a lot of cautious optimism going around though.
Here is something to chew on. Switzerland recently became one of the first nations to separate deaths into three categories; unvaccinated, vaccinated, and vaccinated plus booster. How you interpret the data depends on what you are trying to argue. The difference between unvaccinated and vaccinated/booster is huge. The difference between vaccinated and vaccinated plus booster, not that huge. This doesn't say boosters are not needed (they certainly help). But it also shows how effective the original two dose vaccine is.
To get to my point, what do we hope to accomplish with the vaccine? If the goal is to prevent serious illness and death, we may have already achieved that with what has already been administered. If the goal is to prevent any symptomatic infection, then we will need more shots.
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01-25-2022, 03:25 PM #39103
The same people shouting “this is it! Omicron means it’s over! Why won’t they just admit it?!”
are the same mouth breathers shouting “they keep changing their recommendations as time goes on! Why did they say this in spring 2020 if they’re just gonna change later as more data comes in and the virus mutates?! I need to speak to the manager.”
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01-25-2022, 03:27 PM #39104
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01-25-2022, 03:32 PM #39105
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01-25-2022, 03:32 PM #39106
Completely different situation we are currently in than Spring 2020. Before, we were relying on primarily the vaccine giving the world immunity. With Omicron, natural infection is playing a major, major component. Also, with two years of this, and nearly everyone being exposed to the virus now (either vaccinated and exposed, or unvaccinated and exposed), we have literally killed off those most susceptible to serious illness.
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01-25-2022, 03:54 PM #39107
So does that mean we can sign you up for the "do not admit to the hospital" list. Because if the medical industry is as evil as you say I can't imagine you'd want to be in a hospital no matter how sick you were. And I sure as fuck wouldn't want to be the nurse that had to take care of you.
That data, like California's seems to end at the end of 2021, so it isn't relevant for Omicron. Oregon's is more recent. With things changing so rapidly the understandable lag in publishing data becomes a problem in trying to understand what's going on. And the data comes down to a preposition: hospitalized WITH covid vs hospitalized FOR covid. No doubt there is some confusion, ambiguity, and inconsistency in the reporting of hospitalization data. Death numbers are more solid.
Interesting to me that the people who are most certain about what is going to happen are the people with no medical background. While they're busy telling the future maybe Benny and altasnob can tell us when we're finally going to get those flying cars.
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01-25-2022, 04:06 PM #39108
That's because world leaders, scientist, doctors, ect. have to be careful what they say. They have reputations to uphold. They can't speculate even if everything suggests that speculation will turn out to be true. That's why I come to TGR. We don't have those social constructs here. Nothing I type on TGR is original thought. It's just a regurgitation what I read elsewhere. And I might say things that I know the author really, really, wants to say but can't.
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01-25-2022, 04:09 PM #39109
Flying cars you say?
https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/25/busin...cli/index.html
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01-25-2022, 04:10 PM #39110
Ha, yeah, I'm not surprised at the blackmail. Where else am I going to go? Shame about your injury there, Mr. Profane. Wouldn't want something to happen to it. Mobster mentality
I sure as shit would never get into an ambulance with a trauma injury these days, if I was awake. That's like opening a black hole under your net worth. Which, I bet they check at the front desk.
Furgetabout medi vac choppers. No fucking way.
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01-25-2022, 04:12 PM #39111
Last night local news reported a new Omicron sub variant in WA.
Cases soaring here in SEWA“When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis
Kindness is a bridge between all people
Dunkin’ Donuts Worker Dances With Customer Who Has Autism
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01-25-2022, 04:28 PM #39112
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01-25-2022, 04:39 PM #39113
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01-25-2022, 04:50 PM #39114
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01-25-2022, 04:51 PM #39115
So I’ve had an interesting twelve hours or so……Woke up around 0300 with really painful swollen glands. Took some ibuprofen and tried to go back to sleep. At around 0700, still no relief, so I took a Tylenol……And immediately had the same adverse reaction I had a couple of weeks ago when I had COVID and took a NyQuil tablet, which also includes acetomenifen (sp?)…I’m talking full body hives, swollen face, neck, etc…….I was freaking the fuck out. Took two Benadryl, which alleviated the allergic reaction symptoms, but then the GI issues started. Vomiting, diarrhea, the works……I’ve basically been able to keep a piece of toast down all day and have never felt more nauseous in my life…..Anyone here ever heard of that kind of reaction to Tylenol? I’ve taken it plenty of times before, no issue…..WTF I feel worse than when I had the Vid………
What we have here is an intelligence failure. You may be familiar with staring directly at that when shaving. .
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One man can only push so many boulders up hills at one time.
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01-25-2022, 04:55 PM #39116I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.
"Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"
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01-25-2022, 05:01 PM #39117
Google says Tylanol can do that.
https://www.rxlist.com/tylenol-side-...rug-center.htmA few people feel the rain. Most people just get wet.
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01-25-2022, 05:01 PM #39118
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01-25-2022, 05:11 PM #39119What we have here is an intelligence failure. You may be familiar with staring directly at that when shaving. .
-Ottime
One man can only push so many boulders up hills at one time.
-BMillsSkier
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01-25-2022, 05:17 PM #39120
I'd probably want to ask my doctor in a zoom or phone visit. And pass on the Tylanol. Heal up.
A few people feel the rain. Most people just get wet.
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01-25-2022, 05:28 PM #39121
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01-25-2022, 05:34 PM #39122
I want to know what the world's experts think off the record, after taking a fat bong rip and throwing back a few IPAs, kicking it with their friends. I want to know what they say in the war room. I've read every single COVID opinion piece published in the NYTimes and they are all such fluff. I want to know what these guys and girls are REALLY thinking. What they would say to Joe Biden. Not what they would tell the masses in an op-ed.
I'm sure Mofro et. al., and all the scientist we have been following, have some things they would like to share but they just can't, because of who they are. I get that. That's what I meant by "they have reputations to uphold."
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01-25-2022, 05:34 PM #39123What we have here is an intelligence failure. You may be familiar with staring directly at that when shaving. .
-Ottime
One man can only push so many boulders up hills at one time.
-BMillsSkier
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01-25-2022, 05:37 PM #39124
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01-25-2022, 05:43 PM #39125
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