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04-19-2021, 09:07 AM #34626
I do totally laugh at that, but it's not a great analogy for two reasons. The first is that there isn't a correct time to ski in jeans - other than gaper day(s) - whereas there still absolutely is a correct time to wear a mask, and the second is that my 70+ mom can't catch the Texan's hypothermia and die just from riding the chair with him.
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04-19-2021, 09:10 AM #34627______
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Oh, so now they pass your test of being okay. But how are you going to know if it is okay to mock them? Could be wearing it for COVID or the sun. Maybe they decided they like their COVID mask for this purpose.
My father in law has severe allergies and had a stack on N95s he wore/wears in public for it leaving COVID aside. Deserves to be mocked?
Hint- your thinking here is like the middle schooler who didn’t get any direction from their parents about how to treat other people.
Grow up.
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04-19-2021, 09:15 AM #34628
^^
LMAO. Like TGR culture's ever been the gold standard of maturity and decency. Alrighty, then.
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04-19-2021, 09:18 AM #34629
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04-19-2021, 09:19 AM #34630______
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04-19-2021, 09:52 AM #34631
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04-19-2021, 09:57 AM #34632"When the child was a child it waited patiently for the first snow and it still does"- Van "The Man" Morrison
"I find I have already had my reward, in the doing of the thing" - Buzz Holmstrom
"THIS IS WHAT WE DO"-AML -ski on in eternal peace
"I have posted in here but haven't read it carefully with my trusty PoliAsshat antenna on."-DipshitDanno
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04-19-2021, 09:58 AM #34633
if it's your buddy or something, no issue having a laugh and being like 'dude, you're driving in car' or whatever. you're in a position to talk it out
but judging someone on the street? nah, I ain't going there. there a shit-ton of people with health issues or bad experiences because they are immuno-compromised. or maybe they watched a loved one die and they are in reaction mode and being ultra sensitive to the situation. Or maybe they have someone vulnerable at home and they need 100% assurance they did everything they could not to take it back to them. bottom line, you don't know their deal so its uber-conceit to lay your personal risk taking level on them
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04-19-2021, 09:59 AM #34634
I’m a little confused.
Should I wear a mask when hiking in the woods alone?
Sure, when going into the grocery store.
The bar requires them until seated. So is that safe?
The problem arises from shitty guidance. It is not just people being selfish. We each seem to have our individual belief when the mask is required. If the CA government says I don’t need to wear one while drinking in an indoor bar, why should I be surprised that people are not wearing them when walking outside?
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04-19-2021, 10:01 AM #34635
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04-19-2021, 10:09 AM #34636
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04-19-2021, 10:10 AM #34637
I generally don't wear my mask outdoors unless I am close to others. My choice based on the information I have. The problem we face in my opinion, is that so many of the people who never thought it was a problem, and this refuse to do any mitigation effort at all, do so based on messed up information, or misinformation entirely, and when they eventually become impacted through a death of a loved one, or friend, then all of a sudden they see the light. And some not even after that. Simple basic measures at a societal level, like wearing a mask reduce the likelihood of someone you know dying.
And just because everyone who wants the vaccine gets it, does not mean from a science perspective that this over. If we fail to achieve herd immunity because dumbfucks won't get a vaccine, and this things mutates, etc it has the potential to set us right back to the starting point. It is in everybody's interest to achieve herd immunity as quickly as possible.
Herd immunity for polio requires 80% vaccination rate. We have achieved that. Polio is not really a big problem anymore because everyone gets their shots.
If we can quickly achieve herd immunity for covid, it will not be a big deal anymore either.
But back to the original point, yes peoe have different levels of risk assessment and decision making models. But if a large percentage of the population makes their decisions based on a risk model that is based on misinformation, or immediate selfishness, that hurts all of us, and they deserved to be called out.
sent from Utah.sigless.
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04-19-2021, 10:11 AM #34638
Well. There was that time I showed up at the resort and had left my pants at home four hours away. Could not fit into my friends spare pants. She didn’t really want me to try. And I could not buy new ones because by the time early March rolls around the stores in CA had converted to lawn furniture and baseball bats. So I skied in jeans. And I looked great
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04-19-2021, 10:35 AM #34639Registered User
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04-19-2021, 10:35 AM #34640
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04-19-2021, 10:38 AM #34641
Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey
Should have /sarcasm
I was not looking for advice. Just pointing out that we all see the world through different lenses and if our leaders can’t agree on what is prudent, then we sure as hell won’t.
And please don’t tel me how it is different in Canada. Cause it is not really.
And by the way it is 3’ now. Not 6’. To help illustrate the point. You still think is 6’ because they made that up first. And no one inside anywhere is staying 6’ away from each other.
Bars are open in liberal mask compiling Santa Cruz. Inside. Not packed but people are unmasked and closer than 6’. All following the state guidance, which I hear is draconian when I listen to the news outlets. But is not. I think I can even go bowling again. Which has always been a germ fest.
As states and governments roll back precautions the citizens will do the same. Bunch of my covid fearing mask wearing keep the pod clean pod members wanted to meet out for dinner cause we are all vaxed. And these were the same people shaming others a month ago.
Other friends un-vaxed are hitting up the bar cause they believe the case count must be low of it is allowed. And assume it is safe. They are not doing the long math that LSL does to determine if they go to the bar. They want to sit and have a beer with friends. Inside. So they do.
Just anecdotes, but I don’t see folk complying much longer.
But the messaging is not clear.
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04-19-2021, 10:39 AM #34642
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04-19-2021, 10:40 AM #34643
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04-19-2021, 10:44 AM #34644
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04-19-2021, 10:53 AM #34645Registered User
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well I'm confused about your confused
i havent said anything about Canada vs USA but you did bring it up so it must be a thing
Canada actualy has a higher per capita infection rate right now than the USA probably due to more completed vaxxes
i was just pointing out reasonable measures that i doLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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04-19-2021, 12:54 PM #34646
In California, at least, what is poorly communicated is that the allowance of places to open, like indoor bars, is due to lower projections of hospitalization not because it’s suddenly a lower risk activity.
Last week’s two episodes of “In the Bubble” included interviews of some epis on safe/not safe behaviors: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...=1000517710799
And an episode about how pandemics end: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...=1000517072418
They always have very smart SME people on that podcast.
Because bicycle day?
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04-19-2021, 01:11 PM #34647
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04-19-2021, 01:21 PM #34648
That was the one. It was yanked because it was garbage. I hope it was archived someplace because it actually was a great example of bad science that should have never made it to peer review as written. Their data was all over the map and they tried to ignore that by providing a speculative explanation for a totally unrepeatable average measurement. The kind of thing sophomore lab students try to get away with (which, to be fair, apart from their prof, they probably were).
When the experiment does not produce consistent results the people who designed it should either troubleshoot and start again or admit that they've proven that the technique doesn't work. There were other issues, too, of course, but the 95% confidence interval ranging from like 30% to 180% of the mean value should have been a red flag.
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04-19-2021, 01:23 PM #34649
Whether to consider the pandemic over, whether to continue or discontinue precautions is not for each citizen to decide for themselves. It is for health authorities to decide--in conjunction with political authorities when it comes to businesses and public events. (Hopefully those health authorities will be mostly epidemiologists--Osterholm, et al, and less infectious disease physicians--Fauci, et al.) Some members of the public may disagree and decide to flaunt the recommendations or rules from experts but that's been true from day one.
It is true that when large numbers of people are exposed to an infectious disease in dense environments some will be exposed to low bacterial or viral loads and will develop a degree of immunity. When this happens over time-generations- enough people have immunity to slow the spread, but not eliminate it, and some people will die. When a lot of people are exposed all at once--say Indians given smallpox-contaminated blankets--the disease will spread rapidly because no one has immunity and more people will die. Telling people to "get out their and build immunities" is the second scenario, not the first. It is akin to the mistaken idea that immunizations weaken the immune system. "Getting out their" is telling people to contribute to the spread of the virus, the emergence of more variants, and possible getting sick and dying themselves.
If by September the authorities are telling us to throw away our masks and crowd into bars great. If they are telling us that the pandemic is still out of control then anyone who decides on their own that they've had enough and are going to do what they feel like doing is selfish and entitled and has the impulse control , ability to defer gratification, and maturity of a two year old.
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04-19-2021, 01:25 PM #34650
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