Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

[skiskiskiskiski]

Young kids with learning disabilities who need to see a teacher's mouth in order to continue speech development. My brother has a daughter in this camp. Masking in schools has frozen/reversed her development over the last two years since both parents are nurses who cannot WFH. The school mask mandates have converted him and his wife wife from life-long liberals into folks who will vote for any candidate who opposes school mask mandates.

Seems like there could be other solutions rather than unmasking everyone and increasing the risks to the whole community just for one kid.

Some immunocompromised kids in red states where they don't mask have not been able to go to school at all. Why is this kid more important than them?

[skaredshtles]

<snip> The school mask mandates have converted him and his wife wife from life-long liberals into folks who will vote for any candidate who opposes school mask mandates.

Now *that's* a new one for me for shooting one's self in the foot.

[SumJongGuy]

Listen to yourself. Afraid of gay kids in the bathroom? Seriously?

Evangelical home schoolers, #1 reason for home schooling with antivax #2

https://www.dailynews.com/2006/09/03...hool-children/

Nationwide, I’m guessing people are withdrawing their kids even more on gender issues and the feeling they’re having transgenderism forced on them. I know one can’t write about everything, but I wish the writer had access to private school growth numbers in culturally blue states (the schools mentioned in the article were in red states or red areas of purple states).

https://www.mcezone.com/christian-sc...andemic-rules/

[skaredshtles]

Evangelical home schoolers, #1 reason for home schooling with antivax #2

Raising yet another generation of morans.

[skiJ]

' Young kids with learning disabilities who need to be able to see a teacher's mouth in order to continue speech development '

I have two friends who are speech pathologists and two who are special education teachers, and I believe you are not understanding your niece's challenges...

This is not a situation that necessitates unmasking a classroom ( or an entire school ) ;

one of my speech pathologist's reported participation in special education was 20% last year, and not always the same students.


' the kids are not at risk and neither are the teachers. '

actually, some of them are at risk ;

'Get vaxxed and move the f. on with it.
Anything else is me first behavior at best. '

no. and thank you for your opinion -
If you were actually paying attention the magg you identified has consistently supported masking and has expressed discomfort about restaurants.


it would be nice if we could wish this away, or will it away, and we cannot.

' ... the effects of COVID are not nearly as bad as the effects of remote learning, lockdowns, and yes, even masks. '

I don't believe there is a bad effect of actual learning - but that requires an environment where learning is actually encouraged
( this kind of rhetoric kills learning, Because it is not occurring just the way,,, being demanded. )
' bad effect of masks' ? for kids ?
in my experience, this is only a product of the behavior learned from older people in their lives...

to me, the "me first behavior" I see is those presuming to tell others protective measures should not be taken.

Delta is still with us and people are still dying of covid -
That's my reality.

Yes, get vaccinated - and boostered ;

and take whatever precautionary measures you believe are necessary
( I will be masked indoors. and I will rarely eat in a restaurant ( To-Go is fine with me ))

I'm pretty-sure the 5.4million people who have died with covid do not think the effects of COVID are not bad.

Please, try not to be a vector.

thanks. tj

[TheSilverSurfer]

Young kids with learning disabilities who need to see a teacher's mouth in order to continue speech development. My brother has a daughter in this camp. Masking in schools has frozen/reversed her development over the last two years since both parents are nurses who cannot WFH. The school mask mandates have converted him and his wife wife from life-long liberals into folks who will vote for any candidate who opposes school mask mandates.

So, they are actually just selfish fucks that only care about their own family. Fuck everyone else.

[powdrhound]

The kid needs to see the teachers face, not their own… Minimizing the teachers peril might be possible.

[funkendrenchman]

Outside of the same 10 fearmongers here, most parents aren’t going to put up with a third year of remote learning at any level. Whether that being writing a 50k check to college, to their kindergartners who are already a year behind.

Proficiency in math and reading have dropped by double digit percentages over the span of two years. There is a mental health crisis in kids under 18 per the CDC. SumJungGuy might be scared, but most others are fucking over the effects on their kids who are more likely to die driving to school than from COVID.

Teachers need to deal with it. The vast majority of the country has to show up for work, they can also. Otherwise they just continue to prove they don’t actually give a shit about the kids.

And here comes “Leave Them Kids Alone”…

I was really pulling for “Track and Trace.”

But yea, schools are going to run into big issues this January. I fully expect our kids to go to pre-school a few days all month due to illness and quarantines.

[ticketchecker]

And here comes “Leave Them Kids Alone”…

I was really pulling for “Track and Trace.”

Everyone was talking about New Years Eve, confident and assured


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[Smoova]

So, they are actually just selfish fucks that only care about their own family. Fuck everyone else.

Yes, the ICU nurse (husband) and the Charge Nurse (wife) are "just selfish fucks that only care about their own family."

This place is amazing.

[Smoova]

' Young kids with learning disabilities who need to be able to see a teacher's mouth in order to continue speech development '

I have two friends who are speech pathologists and two who are special education teachers, and I believe you are not understanding your niece's challenges...

This is not a situation that necessitates unmasking a classroom ( or an entire school ) ;

one of my speech pathologist's reported participation in special education was 20% last year, and not always the same students.

This is one of the more amusing @skiJ posts I've seen in some time ... and not just because of the (continuing) spacing and punctuation creativity. I'll be sure to pass your second-hand gibberish on to my brother.

[SumJongGuy]

The kid needs to see the teachers face, not their own… Minimizing the teachers peril might be possible.

I'd be down buying one of these for each of my kids' teachers if I felt that way. Next objection???

[Smoova]

I'd be down buying one of these for each of my kids' teachers if I felt that way. Next objection???

Hallelujah! You've solved their problems!

[Buzzworthy]

Young kids with learning disabilities who need to see a teacher's mouth in order to continue speech development. My brother has a daughter in this camp. Masking in schools has frozen/reversed her development over the last two years since both parents are nurses who cannot WFH.

This situation calls for a specialist. Public school teachers are not trained for these situations where specialists are and it makes a world of difference.

You can bitch and moan or you can seek solutions. Your choice.

[Smoova]

This situation calls for a specialist. Public school teachers are not trained for these situations where specialists are and it makes a world of difference.

You can bitch and moan or you can seek solutions. Your choice.

I know this may be a shock, but most major metro area school districts actually employ speech pathologists. They're not exempt from mask mandates.

[skiJ]

the fact that they are nurses does not give them the privilege of setting school Policy.
tutors are an option,
Private teachers are an option.

I was told two weeks ago that nurses can make 250G annually - so there are personal choices to make.

and yes - trying to project personal demands on community is selfish.


Thank you. tj

see yours, Smoov. -

If you think a public school ( elementary) school teacher is responsible for your niece's speech development,
I will be glad to offer more creative "gibberish" .

yes, this place is amazing.

[SumJongGuy]

It's purely a coincidence that many of the people yelling the loudest for in person learning since day 1 of the pandemic March 2020 ALL ALONG are also..

The biggest critics of public schools because ... CRT... Common Core... Transgender bathroom policy... always opposed to teacher raises and teacher strikes.. demanding no masks in schools and everywhere.. Just a coincidence that now they support the public school system offerings and want it all back to the way it was before the pandemic..



These folks were all in on home schooling or religious charter schools and publicly funds reallocated for "private" schools. STFU and put your kids there instead..

[Name Redacted]

It's purely a coincidence that many of the people yelling the loudest for in person learning since day 1 of the pandemic March 2020 ALL ALONG are also..

The biggest critics of public schools because ... CRT... Common Core... Transgender bathroom policy... always opposed to teacher raises and teacher strikes.. demanding no masks in schools and everywhere.. Just a coincidence that now they support the public school system offerings and want it all back to the way it was before the pandemic..



These folks were all in on home schooling or religious charter schools and publicly funds reallocated for "private" schools. STFU and put your kids there instead..

Dead center is definitely named Karen.

[Buzzworthy]

I know this may be a shock, but most major metro area school districts actually employ speech pathologists. They're not exempt from mask mandates.

So you choose bitch and moan. Got it.

[skiskiskiskiski]

I know this may be a shock, but most major metro area school districts actually employ speech pathologists. They're not exempt from mask mandates.

Does your district have shitty speech pathologists that aren't able to think outside the box and come up with solutions?

[SumJongGuy]

^^^My oldest didn't say two words together until he was almost 3. He had public school speech pathologist for an hour every day until about 4th grade. Now he won't shut up!

[old goat]

i don't agree with the nurses wanting the school masking mandate to change, BUT--anyone who doesn't put their kid's welfare ahead of the rest of humanity's shouldn't be a parent. So I give them a pass. And that's why we try not to let parents decide how the schools are run and who gets to pitch and who plays right field. (I played right field--and I was perfectly happy there. I knew my place)

[SumJongGuy]

i don't agree with the nurses wanting the school masking mandate to change, BUT--anyone who doesn't put their kid's welfare ahead of the rest of humanity's shouldn't be a parent. So I give them a pass. And that's why we try not to let parents decide how the schools are run and who gets to pitch and who plays right field. (I played right field--and I was perfectly happy there. I knew my place)

Best made plans.... Decision for in person was based on the ASSumption that the overwhelming majority of teachers and kids would be fully vaxxed ASAfuckingP. It was also based on the Assumption that nobody would go full psycho about mask requirements in schools much less their entire fucking state. Now add in Omicron to this shit show.. End of it all everything depends most on HOSPITAL CAPACITY.. Capacity low or none and mask mandates are needed... If people won't comply then shit gets closed and done remotely.. That's the fucking entire scenario and the reason hospitals are full and we can't have nice things is all because fucking anti mask anti vax morons... ALL OF IT is on them and they're the ones bitching loudest about the schools being closed. FUCK I want the schools open. My daughter almost killed herself last year. But, if the hospitals can't keep up with STUPID we gotta shut shit down.. Thanks morons..

[Smoova]

the fact that they are nurses does not give them the privilege of setting school Policy.
tutors are an option,
Private teachers are an option.

I was told two weeks ago that nurses can make 250G annually - so there are personal choices to make.

and yes - trying to project personal demands on community is selfish.


Thank you. tj

see yours, Smoov. -

If you think a public school ( elementary) school teacher is responsible for your niece's speech development,
I will be glad to offer more creative "gibberish" .

yes, this place is amazing.

Magnificent.

[skiJ]

... but according to her uncle, his niece's needs come after both of their jobs.

challenging times call for creative solutions -
If his niece's parents believe eliminating masks are going solve their daughter's learning disabilities ...

and the idea that COVID is less detrimental than masking ,,, is a simple, no. ( to me. )


I am in-agreement that parents' first Responsibility is raising their child ;

I do not believe that is accomplished by telling others they should not take precautionary measures
( I believe,,, the attitude of older people in her life has been more detrimental to the girl's development than the teacher wearing a mask

( Because apparently the girl is being told she can't learn from someone wearing a mask ) )

"gibberish "

How about if the parents spent an hour each day with their daughter - And
taught her that in challenging times, each person does a little more, tries a little more -

probably 'more gibberish' --


happy new year. tj