Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

[TBS]

But, you can still catch it or spread it. Chance is very small but there it is…
See NY Yankees - 8 guys who were vaxxed all tested positive last week.
Us vaxxed peeps can unknowingly harbor it in our nasal passages and spew it on the unvaxxed.
SUPERSPREADERS

[MagnificentUnicorn]

But, you can still catch it or spread it. Chance is very small but there it is…
See NY Yankees - 8 guys who were vaxxed all tested positive last week.
Us vaxxed peeps can unknowingly harbor it in our nasal passages and spew it on the unvaxxed.
SUPERSPREADERS

SUPER SPREADERS, is that a porno or a band name?


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[Ted Striker]

both

[jono]

Who had "advent of porno-bands" for May's unexpected upside?

Just a little late, though--coulda been the perfect lockdown solution for streamng concerts.

[rideit]

SUPER SPREADERS, is that a porno or a band name?


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As long as they aren’t spreading fromunda cheese.

[grinch]

Amazing this has to be explained at this point/smh

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[rideit]

Fascinating read here.

https://www.wired.com/story/the-teen...ed-covid-kill/

[SkiCougar]

Texas is gone no mask but still got some holdouts requiring and some that just took the signs down, got people wearing face diapers and nothing at same spots, makes it hard to say who are still the serious mask people and who just dint get the no mask memo.

[jono]

Fascinating read here.

https://www.wired.com/story/the-teen...ed-covid-kill/

Thanks for posting that, it closed a loop for me. More than a year ago I was trying to help my wife's employer figure out how to deal with this in a dental office (what to do about ultrasonic scalers etc.) and ran across that damn 5-micron assumption in a dental paper about splatter and aerosols from 1970.

As that story illustrates, the tools that were available to predict/measure/model particle motion in that size range 50-75+ years ago were just totally inadequate. I had assumed that 5 microns was just a bad guess (in two respects--the more important one being that there is no critical particle size that air can't blow around and keep it aloft). Very cool to see the real answer.

Since about 2000 or so we've used computational fluid dynamics software to model stuff like this--my experience with that was very large combustors, but even there it's obvious that 5 microns is not a critical size at which particles start to fall. I'm no expert, far from it--there are a lot of people who know this more specifically than I do. The issue is clearly bigger than this one topic: the problem is the knowledge silos and the insularity of expertise.

[old goat]

Fascinating read here.

https://www.wired.com/story/the-teen...ed-covid-kill/

Great article. Medicine is full of "facts' the origins of which are lost in time, And medicine loves orthodoxy--after all, we don't want doctors acting on whatever cockamamy idea takes root in their heads, we want them to follow the "standard of care". No doubt the aerosol theory will become the new orthodoxy, until it doesn't work with the next pandemic. Science isn't a steady march of progress. It advances by fits and starts, error and correction. The scientific method isn't about being right all the time, it's about fixing it when you're wrong.

Fortunately, the general medical and public health community was advocating masks many months before the CDC and WHO acknowledged aerosol spread.

[bodywhomper]

Didn’t the CDC just publicly recognize aerosol spread like a week or two ago?

[Meadow Skipper]

Fascinating read here.

https://www.wired.com/story/the-teen...ed-covid-kill/

Great link. I should read Wired more often.

[Mustonen]

Texas is gone no mask but still got some holdouts requiring and some that just took the signs down, got people wearing face diapers and nothing at same spots, makes it hard to say who are still the serious mask people and who just dint get the no mask memo.

Or neither. If the business has the sign or a significant percentage of folk are masked up, I wear the mask because it costs me nothing to complete my errand with a mask on.

In my state, state OSHA guidelines still haven’t changed. Going to make for some interesting conflicts with staffing until that gets resolved.

[k2skier112]

Or neither. If the business has the sign or a significant percentage of folk are masked up, I wear the mask because it costs me nothing to complete my errand with a mask on.

In my state, state OSHA guidelines still haven’t changed. Going to make for some interesting conflicts with staffing until that gets resolved.

only inbred a moronic cunt calls it a "face diaper", like SC
unless he's that buttercup wearing it on his chin, which now makes sense
it's floors me when dumb cunts still have a problem with a piece of cloth over their face

MAGA!

[jono]

Great article. Medicine is full of "facts' the origins of which are lost in time, And medicine loves orthodoxy--after all, we don't want doctors acting on whatever cockamamy idea takes root in their heads, we want them to follow the "standard of care". No doubt the aerosol theory will become the new orthodoxy, until it doesn't work with the next pandemic. Science isn't a steady march of progress. It advances by fits and starts, error and correction. The scientific method isn't about being right all the time, it's about fixing it when you're wrong.

Fortunately, the general medical and public health community was advocating masks many months before the CDC and WHO acknowledged aerosol spread.

The juxtaposition of how to improve scientific understanding and the fields/technologies that apply it next to the fires of partisanship. Perhaps Godwin's law is the new orthodoxy?

[Ted Striker]

SkCougs is performance art

[The AD]

Anyone else notice the sudden shift in anti-mask rhetoric? For the last year the CDC couldn't be trusted, now anyone still requiring masking is "against science." So predictable, yet still amazing.

[RoooR]

Anyone else notice the sudden shift in anti-mask rhetoric? For the last year the CDC couldn't be trusted, now anyone still requiring masking is "against science." So predictable, yet still amazing.

I was wearing a mask last January when my coworker from Wuhan told me what was going on and I did a little math. Now I've got one of the most effective vaccines ever invented coursing through my veins and the math has swung the other way. At this point driving to the store is far more dangerous than walking around it without a mask. Even the CDC agrees and they are a notoriously risk adverse institution. According to them I've never once cooked my eggs or steak enough and almost every person I know has a drinking problem.

[Mustonen]

It might have been friendly for the CDC to leak that they were considering lifting the mask recommendation a few days before actually doing so. Give states, cities, counties, and corporations a heads up so they could be ready. Rather than drop it on a fucking Friday so we’re guaranteed a weekend of conflict and confusion while everybody chases their tails.

[galibier_numero_un]

Wait, so I can’t spread it or catch it and still I’m supposed to put this shit on my face to indulge the feelings of people who don’t comprehend that?

All the crazy conspiracy assholes who said this would never end were right.
Jesus

Because it's their establishment, and for all you know, they have an immune compromised employee whom they value, and who is uncomfortable about this. It starts with science, by but goes beyond that.

... Thom

[The AD]

I was wearing a mask last January when my coworker from Wuhan told me what was going on and I did a little math. Now I've got one of the most effective vaccines ever invented coursing through my veins and the math has swung the other way. At this point driving to the store is far more dangerous than walking around it without a mask. Even the CDC agrees and they are a notoriously risk adverse institution. According to them I've never once cooked my eggs or steak enough and almost every person I know has a drinking problem.

That's great. Not everyone is vaccinated, though. I got my first shot as soon as I was eligible and I get my second shot Tuesday. I'd really rather not be around a lot of people who all of a sudden think masks aren't needed.

[jono]

It might have been friendly for the CDC to leak that they were considering lifting the mask recommendation a few days before actually doing so. Give states, cities, counties, and corporations a heads up so they could be ready. Rather than drop it on a fucking Friday so we’re guaranteed a weekend of conflict and confusion while everybody chases their tails.

Exactly. I was in a few airports Friday and the hastily-prepared statements coming over the loudspeakers clearly reflected a lack of preparation--and air travel probably had it the easiest because people were relatively prepared for the rules when they made the reservations.

It's going to be a high bar, but CDC needs to make it a goal not to be featured in SNL's cold open.

[Flounder]

First trip to local grocery store post mask mandate. They are still asking for masks and there was 100% compliance. Walked over to liquor store while I was there, same deal. Kept my mask on for the walk back and forth just to trigger snowflakes that can’t handle people wearing a mask outdoors.

[Meadow Skipper]

Anyone else notice the sudden shift in anti-mask rhetoric? For the last year the CDC couldn't be trusted, now anyone still requiring masking is "against science." So predictable, yet still amazing.

Ironically, I was trusting the CDC until this last hard 180, now I’m not so sure.

[wooley12]

Not trusting is good. Never believing is trumptarded.