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05-14-2020, 07:58 AM #17976
Yesterday both both France and Spain released seroprevalence data.
In France only around 5% infected, more than 20,000 deaths, with 3.6% of infected individuals hospitalized and an IFR of 0.7%.
In Spain too only around 5% infected, more than 27,000 deaths, and a death rate just under 1%.
A meta-analysis of multiple studies shows convergent IFR estimates of 0.5 to 0.9% for COVID-19.
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05-14-2020, 07:58 AM #17977Banned
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05-14-2020, 08:00 AM #17978
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05-14-2020, 08:00 AM #17979Registered User
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05-14-2020, 08:01 AM #17980
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05-14-2020, 08:02 AM #17981
Thanks for the reminder that this is real, and affects real people in real a devastating ways. Too bad some people and pundits just can't grasp this.
Good luck to your neighbors and thanks for being a helping hand to those in need. I hate to use a religious quote, but there is a truth in the quote "There but for the grace of God, go I." Anyone of us could be that neighbor.
I agree it is a constitutional right for Americans to be assholes...its just too bad that so many take the opportunity...iscariot
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05-14-2020, 08:11 AM #17982
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05-14-2020, 08:38 AM #17983
Wonder what type of tests (with what accuracies, FP/FN) they used?
The infection rate seems (depressingly) low, considering that the some larger enclosed communities (De Gaulle, Rosevelt) had the infection rates at around or over 33%. Of course, spread of general population is way different than aircraft carriers, but still... 5%?
Damn.
Edit: On Charles De Gaulle of the 1760 tested 1048 were positive...so about 60%? Could not find mention of asymptomatic but that data could be interesting, wonder if that could be correlated with Spain/France data.
The floggings will continue until morale improves.
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05-14-2020, 08:39 AM #17984Banned
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Putting that into perspective
In a country of 67M
5% infection rate.
3.35 M infected
147k confirmed infections
95.7% of the infected population is asymptomatic or mild symptoms.
So slightly higher asymptomatic/mild symptoms than I stated 40 days ago?
SkiCoug was even closer.
85-90% of the C19 fatalities in France are over 70... Wait until you see the IFR for those under 70...
Has any one published infection susceptible % of population?
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05-14-2020, 08:42 AM #17985
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05-14-2020, 08:49 AM #17986
Among those positive for Ab, 26% were asymptomatic if you read the article.
But go on...Move upside and let the man go through...
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05-14-2020, 08:57 AM #17987
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05-14-2020, 09:04 AM #17988
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05-14-2020, 09:06 AM #17989Banned
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What did I miss?
https://science.sciencemag.org/conte...cience.abc3517
Why aren't the empathetic concerned about non-C19 excess deaths. The NY study was extraordinarily concerning.
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05-14-2020, 09:06 AM #17990
I read this morning that the quick test they're using at the White House is maybe 70% reliable, so, who knows. Although we have the most, the best, the greatest testing in the world.
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05-14-2020, 09:22 AM #17991
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05-14-2020, 09:31 AM #17992
Oh my bad, that paper states 25% asympyomatic rate modeled off of the Diamond Princess and a population prevalence of 3.6%-4.4% not 26% asymptomatic and 5% prevelence like the serosurveilence in Spain.
But go on...Move upside and let the man go through...
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05-14-2020, 09:33 AM #17993Funky But Chic
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05-14-2020, 09:34 AM #17994
its the blood clot flu.
Science papers main points were 1. Lockdown in France was effective at reducing R0 from 2.9 to .6-.7, and 2. that "herd immunity" was nowhere in sight.Move upside and let the man go through...
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05-14-2020, 09:34 AM #17995Funky But Chic
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05-14-2020, 09:36 AM #17996Banned
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No stress, thanks for your hard work battling the virus and contributions.
Here's an interesting one on vitamin D reducing symptom severity.
https://eurekalert.org/pub_releases/...-vdd051220.php
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05-14-2020, 09:36 AM #17997Originally Posted by blurred
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05-14-2020, 09:41 AM #17998
So here's an interesting perspective I'm hearing a bit more attention on: https://www.sciencealert.com/why-do-...e-others-don-t
It's not just that people are "asymptomatic" but perhaps a better way to look at is it that asymptomatic is simply having a better immune response, ie a well functioning immune system. The thing that's been throwing everyone off is how kids are by and large unaffected by COVID.
From the piece linked above: "However, there is no good evidence that asymptomatic people who never develop symptoms are able to pass it on."
IF this is true, then that could be some very, very good news. I know it's being researched pretty heavily right now. Heard about a big study from Switzerland that came up with the same kind of conclusion. I sure hope that it's true! Then we can finally let our kids get back to a normal, healthy life. As well as those who are as we call "asymptomatic."
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05-14-2020, 09:42 AM #17999
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05-14-2020, 09:44 AM #18000
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