Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

[bennymac]

Haven’t you heard? From the moment you are born you are supposed to accrue the skills for critical thinking ability to allow you to reasonably approach complicated multi-faceted situations without having to resort to binary bad vs good / my team vs your team conflict resolution.

Vibes for your friends and families and co-workers and apartment tenants that have to deal with you in the real world.

[bennymac]

And keep a condom on at all times too for good measure.

If only your Dad followed that advice...

[ötzi]

It occurs to me, and maybe I'm the last person in America to figure this out, but there are a lot of people in this country who don't care if they live or die....

Right? It's getting to be like Russia. On the bright side, the dash cam videos should be good.

[gravitylover]

If only your Dad followed that advice...

LOL

[Benny Profane]

So, this is how our parasitical college administration industry is going to deal with this clusterfuck. Party shaming. Allow a ton of nucklehead 17-19 year olds live their fantasy, which is leave Mom and Dad's and go to a four year drug, alcohol, and sex filled party, don't test them before they arrive, don't test them the first week, but just wait for the inevitable pahtee, and point and say, look, it's their fault! They're nuckleheads! No way we could have planned for this! And, btw, we have their money.

A Few Students Threw Parties. Now an Entire SUNY Campus Is Shut Down. https://nyti.ms/3bBFmkp

So fucked up.


“This is a sad day for SUNY Oneonta,” said Dr. Barbara Jean Morris, the college’s president. “However, the actions we are taking will allow us to put our focus back on learning.”

Before classes began, the college had not required students to show that they had tested negative for the virus before being allowed on campus, as many colleges around the United States have done. Students also were not tested upon arriving for the semester.

Shortly after classes started, students began posting videos on social media chronicling the rising number of infections and criticizing what they said was a lack of communication about the outbreak from the college.

After the college began testing students, faculty members and other employees en masse, some students who tested positive filmed themselves being woken up in the early hours of the morning and rushed into vans by men in white hazmat suits who took them to campus locations where they were to quarantine.

Haley Dimonda, a first-year student, said she had gotten a call shortly before 1 a.m. Monday informing her that she had tested positive for the virus and would have to pack her things to quarantine in a different dormitory.

About five minutes later, Ms. Dimonda said, a resident assistant knocked on her door and told her that a man was waiting for her. Ms. Dimonda, 18, filmed herself, teary-eyed, following a man in a hazmat suit. She was still in her pajamas when she was escorted out of her dorm room carrying some of her belongings.

[glademaster]

Just crawl under your bed
Turn out the lights
Lock the doors
And center something in the middle of your . . .
Nevermind

Seriously bro, are you living? Have you lived?

Life
Is
Fatal

Death is certain

Have some fun on your magic ride

You sound like a geriatric

It's a damn shame you haven't heeded my recommendation yet.

[Meadow Skipper]

As noted before, one good thing about the pandemic is that it really helps identify the idiots.

[stuckathuntermtn]

Haven’t you heard? From the moment you are born you are supposed to accrue the skills for critical thinking ability to allow you to reasonably approach complicated multi-faceted situations without having to resort to binary bad vs good / my team vs your team conflict resolution.

Vibes for your friends and families and co-workers and apartment tenants that have to deal with you in the real world.

Hahaha, rekt.

[stuckathuntermtn]

As noted before, one good thing about the pandemic is that it really helps identify the idiots.

This an entire reality the past 4 or 5 years has been good at outting the assholes. It's one of the reasons I don't believe in hate speech laws.

[wooley12]

I like the way Cuomo gets the science and doesn't screw around with the virus. No way he'll let the progress made in that county's good numbers get screwed up and have locals die. The rule was no parties and somebody's precious thought they were special. How are the other SUNY's doing?

[alias_rice]

I like the way Cuomo gets the science and doesn't screw around with the virus. No way he'll let the progress made in that county's good numbers get screwed up and have locals die. The rule was no parties and somebody's precious thought they were special. How are the other SUNY's doing?

I don’t know, he seems to have swung to far to lockdown side of things for me. The science seems to say NYC should be opening schools, especially elementary schools.

[uglymoney]

One could argue that the English dude is dealing with an even worse leader in Boris Johnson and his lackeys.

We talked about Brexit at length. It was a fun night. They had been in this little town on the French border for a week and we were the only English speakers they had met. The locals mostly Spanish/French speaking.

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[wooley12]

I don’t know, he seems to have swung to far to lockdown side of things for me. The science seems to say NYC should be opening schools, especially elementary schools.

My elementary age kin in NYS are suburban NYC and are doing remote/small group mix. I don't know what the NYC schools are doing. I can see where city schools would have a tougher time doing it safely. My elem age kin here in WA are remote for now. And they live across the street from the school. Gov is a woosie.

[jono]

I don’t know, he seems to have swung to far to lockdown side of things for me. The science seems to say NYC should be opening schools, especially elementary schools.

What do you mean by 'the science' in this context?

[PB]

What do you mean by 'the science' in this context?

Eggfuckingzactly

[alias_rice]

What do you mean by 'the science' in this context?

Low case counts and low positivity rate mainly. If you’re not doing school with NYC stats you’re not doing school until a vaccine. That’s all well and good for your average dentist, but really fucks over low income kids.

A quick google earth though shows they will be opening schools on the 21st.

[jono]

Low case counts and low positivity rate mainly. If you’re not doing school with NYC stats you’re not doing school until a vaccine. That’s all well and good for your average dentist, but really fucks over low income kids.

A quick google earth though shows they will be opening schools on the 21st.

How low does the science say is right for schools to open? Or does the science have other possibilities? Perhaps three or even four options besides "closed" and "open"?

[alias_rice]

How low does the science say is right for schools to open? Or does the science have other possibilities? Perhaps three or even four options besides "closed" and "open"?

Who’s arguing for only 2 options?

But the reality is that for lots of kids the only option is live in person school if they’re going to learn anything. Not to mention working class kids have the same risk of catching Covid, since they’re at some type of daycare facility anyway, so they may as well me in school. But it’s a moot point anyway as schools will be open in 2 weeks.

[wooley12]

You lost me at "Reality is". For some yep. The clusterfuck would grow with too manny options. Thinking globally.

[jono]

I don't know where you're coming from, a_r, but I'm kind of getting used to hearing the refrain of "can't we just do one thing based on the science??" coming from my most Trump-apologist, post-factual friends. It rings hilarious because of the irony. But the sense I get is that they're hearing from a narrow enough set of news sources that they actually do believe there are clear answers. That's a bit of a Dunning-Kruger scenario, obviously, but also a bit of the standard denial necessary to imagine it could be that simple.

Like I said, I don't know if that's you, and I'm not accusing you of that, just saying it's a good idea not to mis-label an inevitably partial view of a problem as "the science" when we all know good and well it's more complicated than even one field of science. And while the challenge of integration doesn't see much discussion, it turns out that integrating expertise from multiple fields is often as complex a process as the specialized fields. So which science? Toss a coin? Is the integrator who's likely not an expert on any of them practicing science, too? It's complicated.

[SkiBall]

Long thread focusing on long term effects.
https://twitter.com/Craig_A_Spencer/...036121602?s=20

[bodywhomper]

Today’s Slavitt podcast also focused on long term effects.

Re: children: Sprinkled through this thread, especially over this past month, there have been posts about some of the recent empirical observations about children, schools, school staffing, and covid.

[SkiBall]

This was the guy on that pod. Haven’t listened yet.

[Casey E]

An update on Chile and the Americas region

USA is the biggest tester/million



Latin America is lacking testing severely in general, with the exception of Chile, where 14% of the population has been tested (with 16% cumulative positivity, down to 6% today).

Having reached a regional record in new cases/million, Chile is now down in the pack, chugging along at about the same rate as USA.



And in deaths as well, where there is nothing exceptional about the USA (well, aside from spending 5 times more than Chile for health care per capita)

[Harry]

Nationwide, 20 percent of the covid cases in the last 30 days are traced back to to Sturgis....

Cost to the American taxpayers = $12 Billion dollars to hold a motorcycle rally...

https://mobile.twitter.com/burgessct...loyment-crisis


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