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04-22-2022, 04:45 AM #39851
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04-22-2022, 05:49 AM #39852
That mask/time to infection graph is ridiculous. The authors are “certified industrial hygienists”. The references they cited for the graph do not speak of time to infectious exposure, and “infectious dose” is anything but definitive. They just made a pretty graph that some other chump layperson in the media picked up and widely published, now it’s assumed factual.
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04-22-2022, 06:21 AM #39853
Second booster Wed night .... full Pfizer for the primary and the first booster. Went Moderna for this one. Kicked my ass. Just back to planet earth today.
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04-22-2022, 07:14 AM #39854
1600 pages in and we're still feeling the need to point out that a tightly fitting good mask is better than a poorly fitting poor mask.. and debating whether a poor mask is better than absolutely nothing? OK..
Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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04-22-2022, 07:22 AM #39855
You don't eat through the mask, of course. But you don't have to breathe while the mask is down. Inhale; pull mask down/up; take bite/drink; replace mask/fit in place; exhale. (Admittedly, this will be easier when my Mustache Mask (tm) finally hits the market. )
It's easier than clearing a snorkel after a dive. I thought maybe it was just me, but the guy in the seat next to me was doing it, too. I'm sure this is not recommended procedure for people using masks around known hazards, but it's better than sucking up the air of all the coughing toddlers in the rows behind while you eat. I'll sit next to that guy again anytime.
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04-22-2022, 08:03 AM #39856Registered User
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Maybe you should steer clear of this thread then because one of the benefits of it has been people backing up or explaining their thoughts (right or wrong) with facts.
Not a good look to come in and make a sweeping claim (that I don’t necessarily agree or disagree with) and then get pissy when someone politely asks for some science.
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04-22-2022, 08:21 AM #39857Registered User
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Or you can stop being a big, ugly asshole and endure a slight discomfort to protect other people for a little while.
I can't believe what fucking little selfish babies populate our country.
The funniest part is that the biggest temper tantrum throwing toddlers are also those that like to play tough guy...
Just wear a fucking mask around strangers/vulnerable people.
Jesus.
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04-22-2022, 08:32 AM #39858
I don’t see mask mandates coming back unless it gets really bad. I have an immune compromised neighbor who would readily take the vaccine but his doctor advises against it. It’s for these folks we were supposed to wear masks. Oh well usa home of the I.
Having been boosted and still caught Covid feeling relatively safe for a while so wait until Fall for second booster. The unknowns of long term effects still concerns me. Plan to wear a n95 on plane rides or long bus rides. Didn’t go to concerts or indoor restaurants last year. Likely continuing that pattern. Sure do have mask exhaustion like everyone else
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04-22-2022, 08:38 AM #39859
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04-22-2022, 08:55 AM #39860
Oh I still put on the old surgical that hangs on my wiper controls when I go to these places, for those reasons. I was just sayin' once I went to a bunch of other places I stopped feeling weird not having one on very quickly. I will probably wear a mask on airplanes for the rest of my life. This pandemic has shown me how gross we all actually are.
But thanks for the sanctimonious rant, ya turd.
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04-22-2022, 09:12 AM #39861Move upside and let the man go through...
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04-22-2022, 09:15 AM #39862
Charts are whack anyway, these newer 2022 viruses are <5min for sure.
Move upside and let the man go through...
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04-22-2022, 09:27 AM #39863
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04-22-2022, 09:40 AM #39864
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04-22-2022, 09:41 AM #39865Registered User
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This is how you do it if you HAVE to eat your egg McMuffin or drink your coffee in a place like the dr office waiting room and you cannot wait or excuse yourself and go outside or to your car or somewhere where you arent potentially exposing vulnerable people in place they cannot reasonably avoid.
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04-22-2022, 09:52 AM #39866
Where do you see the 90% number? I thought I'd verified that N95 actually meant 95% in NIOSH's spec at one point, but I'm not readily finding the spec on their website now.
I probably worded the bit about 100x improvement sloppily. What I meant was that, practically speaking, any mask that loses 99% of its effectiveness (as implied on that chart) from poor fit is probably either Really poorly fitting or has such high density that any gap almost turns it into a shield. I think I've only worn 4 or 5 brands, but none of them were that hard to breathe through.
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04-22-2022, 09:55 AM #39867
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04-22-2022, 11:48 AM #39868
https://blogs.cdc.gov/niosh-science-...APF)%20of%2010.
tldr/ I spent nearly 4 weeks on a Jury trial in Oct 2020 listening to no less than 4 Industrial Hygenists, 3 Particle Experts, Filtration experts (and 2 maritime ship experts) in an asbestos case against 3M and the precursor to the modern day N95. Many pictures of faces with coal dust streaks around the edge of the mask and much discussion of "pressure drop" that occurs as the mask filter begins to wet out over time spent in the mask and breathing gets more difficult.
Masks fall into general catogories depending on use, and while the fabric/weave of the face covering for an N95 must exceed 95% particle filtration, most of the filters will catch >99% of the particluates largely due to electrostatics, some nearing 99.9%. But the reality is it is the face seal that allows the majority of particles to be inhaled/exhaled, so the N95 type masks are assigned a Protection factor of 10, meaning a 90% reduction in particle inhalation. But at an individual level with many different faces to fit, this could be anywhere between a PF of 5-20+, so yes almost 10-100x less efficient for the mask overall vs the mask material's filtration potential. The chart authors were just using the filtration #'s with 2 people with idealized fit to get a more impressive 2500hrs.Move upside and let the man go through...
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04-22-2022, 11:51 AM #39869
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04-22-2022, 01:09 PM #39870
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04-22-2022, 01:16 PM #39871
Perhaps on an individual level, but I’m speaking out of line in terms of mask mandates. I guess in the end, the evidence for/against them remains anything but clear. Too many uncontrollable variables. Logically you think they would work on individual level, but does it change anything down the line? I doubt it. I see covid as inevitable, we’re all getting it, masks or not.
No reason to get emotional and entrenched either. Too much out of context emotion on this forum, and social media.
Still have not seen a covid positive for over a month. Plenty of other seasonal respiratory pathogens right now.
Omicron was underwhelming in Montana. Low vax rate. Time to stop worrying until there’s something to worry about.
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04-22-2022, 01:22 PM #39872
How about some mixed covid/AK skiing stoke? View from my hangar. Better view than from inside the Isopod. I wonder if our PAPRs would double as a snorkel/avalung/airbag? This was covid circa 2020, now wearing N95 seems fine.
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04-22-2022, 01:23 PM #39873
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04-22-2022, 01:30 PM #39874Registered User
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