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  1. #21876
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    Quote Originally Posted by funkendrenchman View Post
    It's more about the moron principals having an in-person meeting.
    True. But I’m assuming they were masked (it’s San Fran)


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    Quote Originally Posted by glademaster View Post
    We have a confirmed case in my office. He just let everyone know he'll be back in the office for work on Monday.
    Fuck everything about that

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    Yeah, it's suboptimal. I'm playing the waiting game to see if I get end up getting sick. The last time I interacted with his was last Thursday.

    He was coughing all last week but claimed he felt fine, then called in sick Monday saying he had a high fever and no energy to get out bed all weekend. They had a company come in to disinfect the entire office on Tuesday. Yesterday the guy who was sick sent an email saying he was unsure about when he would be able to resume working in the office, but as of today, it's miraculously "game-on" Monday at 7:00am.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glademaster View Post
    We have a confirmed case in my office. He just let everyone know he'll be back in the office for work on Monday.
    Is Monday 72 hrs past his negative COVID test?


    If so who cares, they have to come back to work at some point.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AK47bp View Post
    Is Monday 72 hrs past his negative COVID test?


    If so who cares, they have to come back to work at some point.


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    It looks like he got a positive result sometime between Sunday over the weekend, based on the progression of events. My money is on him not being able to generate a negative test result before Monday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glademaster View Post
    It looks like he got a positive result sometime between Sunday over the weekend, based on the progression of events. My money is on him not being able to generate a negative test result before Monday.
    Well then fuck that asshole.


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    New form of coronavirus spreads faster, but doesn't make people sicker, new study says
    From CNN’s Maggie Fox

    A global study has found clear evidence that a new form of the coronavirus has spread from Europe to the US. The new mutation makes the virus more infectious but does not seem to make people any sicker, an international team of researchers reported Thursday.

    The mutation affects the spike protein — the structure the virus uses to get into the cells it infects. Now the researchers are checking to see if this affects whether the virus can be controlled by a vaccine. Current vaccines being tested mostly target the spike protein.

    The study, published in the journal Cell, confirms earlier work suggesting the mutation had made the new variant of virus more common. The researchers call the new mutation G614, and they show that it has almost completely replaced the first version to spread in Europe and the US, one called D614.

    “Our global tracking data show that the G614 variant in Spike has spread faster than D614,” theoretical biologist Bette Korber of Los Alamos National Laboratory and colleagues wrote in their report. “We interpret this to mean that the virus is likely to be more infectious,” they add. “Interestingly, we did not find evidence of G614 impact on disease severity.”

    What this means: This could be good news, said Lawrence Young, a professor of medical oncology at the UK’s University of Warwick, who was not involved in the study. “The current work suggests that while the G614 variant may be more infectious, it is not more pathogenic. There is a hope that as SARS-CoV-2 infection spreads, the virus might become less pathogenic,” he said in a statement.

    About the study: The team tested samples taken from patients across Europe and the US and sequenced the genomes. They compared these genome sequences to what’s been shared publicly. Comparing these sequences helped them draw a map of the spread of the two forms.

    “Through March 1, 2020 the G614 variant was rare outside of Europe, but the end of March it had increased in frequency worldwide,” they wrote.

    Even when the D614 form had caused widespread epidemics, in places such as Wales and Nottingham in England, as well as in Washington state, G614 took over once it appeared, they found.

    “The increase in G614 frequency often continues well after stay-at-home orders are in place and past the subsequent two-week incubation period,” they added.

    The new version seems to multiply faster in the upper respiratory tract — the nose, sinuses and throat – which would explain why it passes around more easily, the researchers said. But tests on 1,000 hospitalized coronavirus patients showed those infected with the new version did not fare any worse than those who caught the original strain.

    Other mutations often go along with the G614 mutation, but it’s not clear what effect they have. “The earliest sequence we detected that carried all 4 mutations was sampled in Italy on Feb. 20,” they wrote. “Within days, this haplotype was sampled in many countries in Europe.

    The G614 mutation can be neutralized by convalescent serum – the blood product taken from people who have recovered from a coronavirus infection, the researchers said.

    “But it will be important to determine whether the D614 and G614 forms of SARS-CoV-2 are differentially sensitive to neutralization by vaccine-elicited antibodies or by antibodies produced in response to infection with either form of the virus,” they added.

    More work is needed, of course, to solidify the findings and to see what the changes mean for the epidemic and for patients, the researchers said.
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    ^^^ I swear that story is at least a month old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK47bp View Post
    Well then fuck that asshole.
    yes, fuck that guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by huckbucket View Post
    A good live test for reopening schools, and the risks involved.

    If we get serious about suppressing the virus today, we could knock down prevalence 90% or more by Sept 1. Based on Wuhan, Italy, Europe, NYC, New Jersey, Montana, etc. Economy will run much better with school open, and minimal, declining covid infections.

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    Herman Cain, yes that Herman Cain, hospitalized for Covid-19.....Ten days after attending Trump rally in Tulsa.....
    What we have here is an intelligence failure. You may be familiar with staring directly at that when shaving. .
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    Quote Originally Posted by The AD View Post

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    If I owned that store I'm not sure I'd risk that ultimatum.
    A lot easier to press charges on a naked belligerent dude (or lady) than a simply maskless belligerent dude (or lady).

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongShortLong View Post
    A good live test for reopening schools, and the risks involved.

    If we get serious about suppressing the virus today, we could knock down prevalence 90% or more by Sept 1. Based on Wuhan, Italy, Europe, NYC, New Jersey, Montana, etc. Economy will run much better with school open, and minimal, declining covid infections.
    If we get serious....ugh, just doesn’t seem to be in the cards.

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    I'm back home after getting my first shot for a vaccine in Albuquerque yesterday. I get a booster bump in a couple weeks, which would probably correspond to the timetable of getting sick after probably being exposed on a 737 full, and I mean full, of Texicans out of DFW last night, wedged into a middle seat between two dudes whose noses were hanging out of their masks. 50% of young people in the airport in Dallas had no masks. I went out to get something to eat a couple nights ago in Dallas and saw packed bar/restaurants with nary a mask in sight. I'm sure hoping this vax works.

    They must all have been Antifa protesters to act like that.

    edit to add: Talking with a flight attendant in back of the plane, she said American Airlines has said a few hundred flight crew have contracted COVID but all the crews believe the airline is probably copping to only a tenth of the real number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splat View Post
    I'm back home after getting my first shot for a vaccine in Albequerque yesterday. I get a booster bump in a couple weeks, which would probably correspond to the timetable of getting sick after probably being exposed on a 737 full, and I mean full, of Texicans out of DFW last night, wedged into a middle seat between two fucking dudes whose noses were hanging out of their masks. 50% of young people in the airport in Dallas had no masks. I went out to get something to eat a couple nights ago in Dallas and saw packed bar/restaurants with nary a mask in sight. I'm sure hoping this vax works.

    They must all have been Antifa protesters to act like that.
    At least they picked the right place to test it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkendrenchman View Post
    It's more about the moron principals having an in-person meeting.
    The county required the in person meeting. Professionally, there was no choice. OTOH, I think I would have told them I’d call in, and risk my job.

    For a county that has managed this thing quite proactively and intelligently, that sure was a dumb requirement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splat View Post
    I'm back home after getting my first shot for a vaccine in Albequerque yesterday. I get a booster bump in a couple weeks, which would probably correspond to the timetable of getting sick after probably being exposed on a 737 full, and I mean full, of Texicans out of DFW last night, wedged into a middle seat between two dudes whose noses were hanging out of their masks. 50% of young people in the airport in Dallas had no masks. I went out to get something to eat a couple nights ago in Dallas and saw packed bar/restaurants with nary a mask in sight. I'm sure hoping this vax works.

    They must all have been Antifa protesters to act like that.

    edit to add: Talking with a flight attendant in back of the plane, she said American Airlines has said a few hundred flight crew have contracted COVID but all the crews believe the airline is probably copping to only a tenth of the real number.
    Which vaccine version did you get Splat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    At least they picked the right place to test it?
    Considering I was the only person I know of getting it.....maybe.
    I was talking to a woman in ABQ who is a midwife on the Navaho res and she said they're getting decimated by it out there.

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    Texas Gov. Greg Abbott signed an executive order on Thursday mandating face coverings in public places "in counties with 20 or more positive COVID-19 cases, with a few exceptions," according to a statement.

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    Jesus, America get your shit together! I’m 2 hours away from Italy in a tourist town and we haven’t had a case in over three weeks!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mofro261 View Post
    Which vaccine version did you get Splat?
    Best recollection is fragmented virus shell so body produces Tcells that will kill the virus.
    Same thing Viva got, I believe. Recombinant?

    Quote Originally Posted by funkendrenchman View Post
    Texas Gov. Greg Abbott signed an executive order on Thursday mandating face coverings in public places "in counties with 20 or more positive COVID-19 cases, with a few exceptions," according to a statement.
    Well, yippeekiyofuckingkiyay!!! They all gonna be down at skoug's place of worship fondling snakes in a few weeks.

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    Oregon State Police don’t wear coronavirus masks while patronizing coffee shop, despite governor’s order

    A group of Oregon State Police troopers appeared to defy Gov. Kate Brown’s statewide mask order while in uniform Wednesday, entering a Corvallis coffee shop without wearing required face coverings, video obtained by The Oregonian/OregonLive shows.

    The store’s assistant manager, Travis Boss, said he told the first trooper who arrived that the trooper needed to wear a mask.

    “Governor Brown has no authority to take our civil liberties. We aren’t going to wear masks,” the trooper allegedly said, according to a written statement from Boss provided to the newsroom.

    The trooper proceeded to place his order, Boss said in an interview, offering a foul-mouthed retort to the governor’s mandate that masks be worn within indoor public spaces.

    “He said, ‘F---, Kate Brown,’” Boss recalled
    https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavir...ors-order.html

    <making popcorn>

    Update - Trooper has been placed on leave pending outcome of internal investigation. Based on comments from Superintendent of State police, Trooper “Muh Freedumz“ will be turning in his badge soon.
    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...ng-mask-report
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    So welcome to a July 4 weekend in 2020 where you will witness many citizens of Texas tell some god damn liberal jew New York fake media holder of microphone, [wearing mask, of course] Ah ain't wearin' no mask. I have ma freedom. This is Murica! Now stand back, this sucka can kill you if you get in the way [lights fireworks]

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    Quote Originally Posted by splat View Post
    Considering I was the only person I know of getting it.....maybe.
    I was talking to a woman in ABQ who is a midwife on the Navaho res and she said they're getting decimated by it out there.
    We were just told today that they're putting homeless Covid 19 patients in Gallup, NM in cages......Seriously, outdoor cages. And Splat, next time your in the Q hit me up, I've got cold beers and a socially-distance friendly yard....
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    Quote Originally Posted by seano732 View Post
    From a Tucson doctor...... Fucking terrifying. Hunker down AZ mags.
    http://www.tucsonsentinel.com/opinio...vid_doctor_op/
    repeated arterial sticks to measure pO2 when pulse oximetry will tell you what you need to know, or an arterial line if you really need repeated blood gases. I hope I never wind up in that hospital.

    Regarding the low death rate--if it is due to mainly young people getting infected it could take quite a while for the death rate to climb. First the young people have to transmit it to old people, which will take weeks, then the old people will have to start to have symptoms--more time. Then the old people will take a month or longer to die (unless the hospital runs out of ventilators). So 6 weeks or more from the start of the spike. Given that in some hot spots ICU's are full and in at least one location in AZ (can;t remember where) care is being rationed--the deaths are on the way.

    The cops in the coffee shop should be fired. Also the firefighters and EMT's who were maskless in our house when my wife got pneumonia.

    Edit--triage is state wide policy in AZ. Nationally deaths starting to rise.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...1dc_story.html
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