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  1. #21726
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    I like this idea. I'd actually favor zero tolerance, but this will do (assuming they are actually going to enforce it):

    Alaska Airlines plans to give passengers yellow cards for refusing to wear masks as a coronavirus precaution
    Alaska Airlines is taking a page out of the soccer refereeing handbook in its bid to enforce in-flight mask-wearing rules amid complaints of passengers refusing to cover up.

    Starting in early July, the airline will hand yellow cards to noncompliant passengers, advising them that it is their “final notice” and that a written post-flight report about them will be made. From there, if a passenger continues to refuse, it will be noted in the report and a decision could be made to ban the offending passenger from future flights.
    https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...us-precaution/

  2. #21727
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    ^^^Coward move IMO. Why not a red card and put their name in their don’t-sell-them-a-ticket list?

    Just reinforces my decision to not step into an airplane until I’ve been vaccinated.
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  3. #21728
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    Canada not messing around.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dan_pdx View Post
    We've been digging these masks - $10, straps around the back of the head rather than the ears, and they use "copper-based antimicrobial technology". Not sure if the copper thing is BS or not, but they're comfy for the price.
    https://foxsox.com/products/flexfit-face-mask
    Silver and copper both have antiviral properties. Whether they are effective against coronavirus in a commercial cloth mask I have no idea, and I suspect the people who make the masks don't know either. It would depend on the form of the silver or copper, how it is incorporated into the masks, and how much there is. But then we don't know anything--especially filtering efficiency--about the cloth masks we are making and buying. Doesn't mean we shouldn't buy or wear them--we should--but I'd like to see FDA start testing them, but then they probably have their hands full right now.

  5. #21730
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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    Silver and copper both have antiviral properties. Whether they are effective against coronavirus in a commercial cloth mask I have no idea, and I suspect the people who make the masks don't know either. It would depend on the form of the silver or copper, how it is incorporated into the masks, and how much there is. But then we don't know anything--especially filtering efficiency--about the cloth masks we are making and buying. Doesn't mean we shouldn't buy or wear them--we should--but I'd like to see FDA start testing them, but then they probably have their hands full right now.
    I've seen companies that incorporate silver (nano silver?) in their masks. Seems like there is something for everyone.
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  6. #21731
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    Young man whose whole fam tested posi returned to work
    He said the flu/cold he caught back in late Dec kicked his ass way harder but the loss of taste and smell was odd
    We're mandatory face coverings at work
    Wife's got a few of her team on maternity leave and has been back to treating patients and her office a few hours a week
    Scored her a god mask someone sewed and brought a bunch in to sell on consignment at the store
    Box from dps showed up the other day unsolicited 2 face shields
    Props to them she likes it better than goggles/glasses
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  7. #21732
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    At a title company they had me sign a Covid -19 document indicating I had not traveled had no symptoms. Etc.

    My response was to ask them if they have traveled etc. and the smart fuckers were shocked I’d asked when they have me signing.


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    Any of those have N95 qualities, KQ?

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  9. #21734
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    "Covid-19 vaccine from Pfizer and BioNTech shows positive results"

    The vaccine generated antibodies against SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19, and some of these antibodies were neutralizing, meaning that they appear to prevent the virus from functioning. Levels of neutralizing antibodies were between 168 and 267 units per milliliter, compared to 94 units per milliliter for 38 patients who had Covid-19 and recovered.

    https://www.statnews.com/2020/07/01/...itive-results/
    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....30.20142570v1

    This is a good first step. Long way to go.

  10. #21735
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    Quote Originally Posted by huckbucket View Post
    "Covid-19 vaccine from Pfizer and BioNTech shows positive results"

    The vaccine generated antibodies against SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19, and some of these antibodies were neutralizing, meaning that they appear to prevent the virus from functioning. Levels of neutralizing antibodies were between 168 and 267 units per milliliter, compared to 94 units per milliliter for 38 patients who had Covid-19 and recovered.

    https://www.statnews.com/2020/07/01/...itive-results/

    This is a good first step. Long way to go.
    That'll send the stock market up a thousand points.

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  11. #21736
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    I'll have Covid odyssey to post if I ever get the fuck out of DFW and the clusterfuck of flights I've been on and have yet to endure while chasing down a covid vaccination that generates antibodies. Traveling is beyond fucked and the airlines be acting like they are just figuring it out at the expense of the hordes of people I have seen stranded like me.

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  12. #21737
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    Got a letter from Portland Parks and Rec yesterday

    With facilities and programs closed since early March, we have missed months of the revenues that allow us to provide the recreation experience Portlanders cherish. This financial domino effect means that, as things stand today, we are likely unable to open pools and community centers, or offer classes, camps, and swimming lessons in Summer 2021 and beyond.
    I had been hoping to get back in the gym and pool this fall, but that’s not happening...

  13. #21738
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    That'll send the stock market up a thousand points.
    Pfizer up 5.5% (or $10B) alone this morning.

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    Chinese are working on Covid-20 right now. Gonna keep these drug companies busy. Always one step ahead those fuckers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by splat View Post
    Any of those have N95 qualities, KQ?

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    No. I don't think anyone but N95 manufacturers have the tech to make that kind of mask but some have quite a bit of engineering in them. That Stark's mask for example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBS View Post
    ^^^Coward move IMO. Why not a red card and put their name in their don’t-sell-them-a-ticket list?

    Just reinforces my decision to not step into an airplane until I’ve been vaccinated.
    I'm guessing this would be easier said than done. Alaska probably would rather not have to fight a bunch of lawsuits from people who got booted after a single infraction. Just guessing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    Chinese are working on Covid-20 right now.
    Is it one better than COVID-19?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The AD View Post


    Is it one better than COVID-19?
    "No one knows where the 19 comes from"
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  18. #21743
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    Really enjoy the lack of professional sporting events.

    I say we make it permanent.

    And the airlines should make those non muzzled folks wear one of those yellow stars. That will shame them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ::: ::: View Post
    Got a letter from Portland Parks and Rec yesterday



    I had been hoping to get back in the gym and pool this fall, but that’s not happening...
    In Summer 2021 and beyond? So that means they're never re-opening. Kind of confusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkendrenchman View Post
    In Summer 2021 and beyond? So that means they're never re-opening. Kind of confusing.
    Did they mean 2020? Seems kind of crazy to pull the fucking plug on next summer already!

  22. #21747
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    This years revenue that isn't being generated won't be there for next years programs and facilities. Next years revenue therefore won't be available going forward...

  23. #21748
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    I'm interested in the Stark mask as it appears to be glasses-friendly. Fog has been the bane of my mask wearing. KQ, have you found the Starks mask plays nicely with eyewear?

    Quote Originally Posted by KQ View Post
    Those look like they have a good seal all the way around.

    Forgot to mention you if you live in or close to Potland OR you can go into the Stark's Vaccum store and buy masks. No need to order online.


    Here's a Hawaiian company making fun masks. Don't have personal experience with this brand but I really l Iike prints. 3 layers, 100% cotton



    Kona Supply Company Face Masks



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    If I lived in WA, Oft would be my realtor. Seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splat View Post
    I'll have Covid odyssey to post if I ever get the fuck out of DFW and the clusterfuck of flights I've been on and have yet to endure while chasing down a covid vaccination that generates antibodies. Traveling is beyond fucked and the airlines be acting like they are just figuring it out at the expense of the hordes of people I have seen stranded like me.

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    DFW fucking blows, does not matter the airline. Good luck getting home.

  25. #21750
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    Quote Originally Posted by skifishbum View Post
    Young man whose whole fam tested posi returned to work
    He said the flu/cold he caught back in late Dec kicked his ass way harder but the loss of taste and smell was odd
    We're mandatory face coverings at work
    Wife's got a few of her team on maternity leave and has been back to treating patients and her office a few hours a week
    Scored her a god mask someone sewed and brought a bunch in to sell on consignment at the store
    Box from dps showed up the other day unsolicited 2 face shields
    Props to them she likes it better than goggles/glasses
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    Nice! My first mask was made for me by a friend and it's lovely but one wasn't enough IMO esp with repeated washing. The design is just like the one you posted. Nice fit and coverage. She did a great job.
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