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    Quote Originally Posted by Deebased View Post
    Looks pretty similar to flu death during the 2017/18 rates for the under 65 crowd. Although the flu takes more sub-18 https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2017-2018.htm
    It looks like COVID is around ten times more deadly than the flu even for the under 65 crowd.

    According to your source for the '17/18, notably bad, influenza season IFR-Symptomatic by age group:

    18-49 → = 0.02%
    50-64 → = 0.05%
    __65+ → = 0.9%

    COVID-19 IFR percentages for New York City based on seroprevalence:

    18-44 → = 0.09%
    45-64 → = 0.8%
    65-74 → = 2.6%
    _75+ → = 7.1%


    Note: If excess deaths are included then COVID-19 deaths are 16% higher. The COVID-19 percentages are also based on positive serology test results which includes the asymptomatic whereas the flu numbers are based on CDC symptomatic estimates. The flu fatality percentages are an order of magnitude smaller if the upwards of 50% asymptomatic flu infections are included.


    According to the CDC people age 20 to 44 accounted for 20% of the coronavirus hospitalizations in the U.S. whereas for the '17/18 flu season people age 18 to 49 accounted for only 10% of the influenza hospitalizations. There's also a much higher percentage of people susceptible to SARS2 compared with the flu virus.

    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....act_id=3590771
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    62 % of Brazilians are > 29 years of age and their pres might be a bigger moran than Trump if that is possible

    27000 dead and coming on strong in a country with a lot of young so I wonder if its just old folks or young folk too??
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    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    Where do you see that? I’ve seen 40%.
    Pick a number. There will be a source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunion 2020 View Post
    “It’s difficult to extrapolate the results to larger populations, since the people on board the ship were living in close quarters while entirely isolated from outside life for about a month.”

    Not saying it’s wrong but...

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    Media still using "asymptomatic" to describe a mixed population of true asymptomatic cases and pre-symptomatic. Not helpful that the author apparently misses this and warns that asymptomatic cases can cause symptoms...in someone else. How many of these people developed symptoms in the next week or two? It's a fine point with respect to contagiousness, but the confusion of those two groups is a big chunk of why people think they can ignore the disease altogether.

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    Agree, and if the number is only 40% that still is frightening as hell.
    Ooof!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    I didn’t know Key Party Barbie was a thing.
    It was the 70s so ya know......
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    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
    Back in rural Michigan "Joey" was the preferred term... for a moron in general. No disrespect to any Joseph's around here.
    About 100 pages back I proposed “Darwin”

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    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    Media still using "asymptomatic" to describe a mixed population of true asymptomatic cases and pre-symptomatic. Not helpful that the author apparently misses this and warns that asymptomatic cases can cause symptoms...in someone else. How many of these people developed symptoms in the next week or two? It's a fine point with respect to contagiousness, but the confusion of those two groups is a big chunk of why people think they can ignore the disease altogether.
    people in america think they can ignore Covid becuz of your fucking idiot president's complete failure to lead his country thru a pandemic which has cost many thousands of lives
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    Quote Originally Posted by MultiVerse View Post
    It looks like COVID is around ten times more deadly than flu even for the under 65 crowd.

    According to your source for the '17/18, notably bad, influenza season IFR-S by age:

    18-49 → = 0.02%
    50-64 → = 0.05%
    __65+ → = 0.9%

    COVID-19 IFR percentages for New York City by age based on seroprevalence:

    18-44 → = 0.09%
    45-64 → = 0.8%
    65-74 → = 2.6%
    _75+ → = 7.1%


    Also, according to the CDC people aged 20 to 44 accounted for 20% of the coronavirus hospitalizations in the U.S. whereas for the '17/18 flu season people aged 18 to 49 accounted for only 10% of the influenza hospitalizations.

    On top of which there's a much higher percentage of people susceptible to SARS2 compared with the flu virus.

    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....act_id=3590771
    And comparing flu numbers from prior years with no social distancing to Covid numbers from a few months of social distancing is apples to oranges. And comparing a bug for which we have a somewhat effective vaccine every year to a bug against we have no defense other than avoiding other people is apples to potatoes.

    So influenza is life threatening if you are in an extremely compromised physical state and or too fucking stupid to get a flu shot. Covid is life threatening if you are a human being in 2020. Why the hell do people continue trying to compare the 2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KQ View Post
    It was the 70s so ya know......

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    Quote Originally Posted by muted View Post
    Of course it's a chubby middle-aged white guy with a goatee. These guys need a name like Karens do.
    I think the name is Kevin ?
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    I heard about this earlier, that is so fucked up, but not surprising.

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    Wow indeed, that's the most evil politics I've heard of in this country. I hope it's broadcast on the major outlets, and that those culpable are prosecuted. Damn, it's a sad day.
    I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. -אלוהים אדירים

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