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  1. #14876
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    Perhaps this info will be helpful for those with loved ones in different states. Cases and deaths

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...tbreak-us.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    hearing more about Roche's Actemra as a treatment for advanced cases, obviously this is anecdotal but it does make sense on the surface at least: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...911_story.html
    Interesting--it's an antiinflammatory/immune suppressant used for some of the same conditions as hydroxychloroquine. Blocks one of the cytokines of "cytokine storm" fame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hutash View Post
    Which is why I suspect Sweden's report is tripe.
    I keep wondering about Sweden's experiment. I am still convinced they are hoping all the brown people let in from the M.E. die from it.
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    I think you'd have an easier time understanding people if you remembered that 80% of them are fucking morons.
    That is why I like dogs, more than most people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huckbucket View Post
    Skip to 5min in.

    This is a nice summary on how this virus operates, and it would behoove those of you seeking clarification on some of the issues raised here to watch the whole thing. Of course, I fully expect that some of you after watching will continue posturing and acting like bitches.

    Farzan ought to stay out of politics when talking science.

    Hey! Scripps changed its name- when I was there it was The Scripps Research Institute. The logo's different, too. I like the old organic molecule better.
    ˇÓrale, vato!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkiCougar View Post
    I don't know, I believe Arkansas had many businesses open and no reports people are dropping like flies.

    will be interesting on the numbers for areas with a lot of people traveling there and in close contact, like NYC; over places like little rock where probably not too many traveled to and the automobile is probably the travel choice by 95% percent.
    Lincoln County, Arkansas is currently the nation's #1 hot spot.
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...es.html#states

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    Quote Originally Posted by The AD View Post
    Lincoln County, Arkansas is currently the nation's #1 hot spot.
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...es.html#states


    Mainly because it doesn't fit my narrative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rideski View Post
    So sad. How can there not be demand for potatoes? Basic food staple. The government can’t figure out how to pick them up and take them to shelters? Spend billions on bombs but not a few grand on feeding starving people. Humans are doomed.


    Lol shitless and I both put the ixnay on uailqae
    its rarely a problem with demand or production, it’s the inability of the supply chain to connect the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viva View Post
    This is a nice summary on how this virus operates, and it would behoove those of you seeking clarification on some of the issues raised here to watch the whole thing. Of course, I fully expect that some of you after watching will continue posturing and acting like bitches.

    Farzan ought to stay out of politics when talking science.

    Hey! Scripps changed its name- when I was there it was The Scripps Research Institute. The logo's different, too. I like the old organic molecule better.
    This is Scripts FL btw. I've seen their massive automated drug sensitivity testing lab in action and it rivals even large pharma. V impressive.

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    Federal government should be collecting the food that is being destroyed and give it to the states to be able to sustain social distancing. That's what a competent government would do.

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    Key word being competent

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    Model suggests the virus spread widely in the US before detection. I've been banging this drum for a little while, it seemed to me like it had to be true. Part of this goes back to initial introduction/creation/birth if this virus, which I still believe was substantially earlier than we're hearing (even though they keep moving it back): https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/23/u...gtype=Homepage

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    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post


    Mainly because it doesn't fit my narrative.
    well, i'm not about t get in a post fight with you all, but from here: https://bing.com/covid/local/unitedstates?form=COVD07

    Arkansas has a fatality rate of 3% and new York state has one of 7% of those infected

    I really have no idea if someplace in Arkansas is a hot spot but with 95 fatalities for a state of 3 million, I would not think so
    Eat em up Houston Cougars !

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    Quote Originally Posted by liv2ski View Post
    I keep wondering about Sweden's experiment. I am still convinced they are hoping all the brown people let in from the M.E. die from it.
    if true, I am liking Sweden more and more !
    Eat em up Houston Cougars !

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkiCougar View Post
    if true, I am liking Sweden more and more !
    You never fail to disappoint. Kudos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viva View Post
    This is a nice summary on how this virus operates, and it would behoove those of you seeking clarification on some of the issues raised here to watch the whole thing. Of course, I fully expect that some of you after watching will continue posturing and acting like bitches.

    Farzan ought to stay out of politics when talking science.

    Hey! Scripps changed its name- when I was there it was The Scripps Research Institute. The logo's different, too. I like the old organic molecule better.
    Yeah, aren't these your former people?
    Definitely a good basic explainer.

    If only there was some technology to screen entire population sets for commonalities in antibodies to this virus and identify the exact antibody genetics and the exact parts of the viral genome they are reacting to...oh wait...nevermind, I should get back to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by huckbucket View Post
    Skip to 5min in.

    The doc has me optimistic.


    Yet, another "hopeful" treatment?

    UofL believes it's made breakthrough in COVID-19 treatment, works to fast-track approval
    https://www.wlky.com/article/uofl-be...roval/32240538

    In the race to find a treatment, UofL says it has developed a technology believed to block SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, from infecting human cells. They explained it this way: The technology is based on a piece of synthetic DNA, or an “aptamer,” which targets and binds with a human protein called nucleolin.

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    If we get the best and brightest minds together


    We might be able to build a fully automatic potato cannon to help with the shortage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liv2ski View Post
    I keep wondering about Sweden's experiment. I am still convinced they are hoping all the brown people let in from the M.E. die from it.
    It's confusing things here because some people look at it and assume the Swedes are just operating business as usual and no one is social distancing, wearing masks, doing anything different. That's not what's happening and people are being mislead by their results IMO. Not that their experiment won't be useful from an analysis standpoint, but using it as a road map on how to react is probably not going to work well for other countries for a variety of reasons.
    Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by huckbucket View Post
    Depends on where they tested.

    Attachment 326230

    Based on 21.2% in NYC testing positive, this implies 1.78 million people are/were infected! The data has yet to be provided though.

    Also still puts the CFR between 0.5% and 1%
    13.8% of NY has antibodies if the data was perfect and extrapolates perfectly.

    That's 2.69 million, almost exactly 10x the number of reported positives.

    0.8% IFR, however this is misleadingly low because:

    1. Antibody positive rates may be inflated due to false positives because we don't know how specific this test is.
    2. Antibodies may be present in cases that have not yet but will develop COVID.
    3. Many who have the disease have not yet died while the disease itself is still spreading (remember when SK where testing was super broad had a CFR of 0.85%? Now it's 2.2% because they are far past peak).

    I bet IFR settles around 1-1.2%
    Last edited by Summit; 04-23-2020 at 03:23 PM. Reason: used NYC rather than all of NYS deaths
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    Quote Originally Posted by klauss View Post
    The doc has me optimistic.
    C'est bon! He has a very simple message: 1) this virus is very easy to defeat and 2) the only reason it survives is because it's so fucking contagious.

    He spends way too much time talking biologics (Not surprising as that's his bailiwick) while glossing over other effective approaches.
    ˇÓrale, vato!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MultiVerse View Post
    It looks like you misinterpreted what was being said, "The results of the study indicate that this test reliably confirms exposure to SARS-CoV-2 twenty days after the onset of symptoms."

    Their statement is not in conflict with Mofro's statement: "Antibodies in symptomatic people have been noted as early as day 1 onset of symptoms. Between day 1 and day 7 antibodies are seen in ~45% of people, by day 10 its 90% and by day 20 100% will be IgG positive,"

    Note the difference, on day 20 100% will be IgG positive and not "antibodies take several weeks after symptom onset to generate" They explicitly mention the uncertainties, including the time to develop immunity. Instead of jumping to conclusions those uncertainties become part of the distribution or "variability," 5.5% (3.3-to-7.7%).

    Sure did. Happy to admit when wrong. Presents a pretty interesting model for the ~95% who may have been asymptomatic but only 45% likely to test positive for antibodies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    13.8% of NY has antibodies if the data was perfect and extrapolates perfectly.

    That's 2.693 million, almost exactly 10x the number of reported positives.

    0.6% IFR.
    I hate lumping NYC with the rest of the state given the large difference in positivity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glademaster View Post
    Nah, why on earth would anyone derive a sense of purpose from willingly allowing themselves to be enslaved? There's nothing normal about the way our current economy and society are structured, humans aren't meant to be wage slaves.
    SRS question. What are they meant to be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deebased View Post
    SRS question. What are they meant to be?
    Glade master is dreaming of an autonomous collective

    “Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by huckbucket View Post
    I hate lumping NYC with the rest of the state given the large difference in positivity.
    21.1% of NYC has antibodies if the data was perfect and extrapolates perfectly.

    That's 1.76 million, about 11x the number of reported positives.

    0.84% IFR (vs 0.8% for NYS)

    Again those are misleadingly low
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    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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