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    Quote Originally Posted by scrublover View Post
    Mrs. scrub and myself tested + on 11/6. I started with mild upper resp symptoms around the 2nd, she a couple days later. No temps, no sat drops, no N/V/D, no SOB. Went to get tested after she was unable to smell the pot of coffee I had just brewed...

    Stayed out of work for ten days. Employee health let me come back after, as I'd been asymptomatic a few days by then. We both now have just a slight leftover upper chest cough. Highest temp in the house the entire time was 98.7F Temp scanning wouldn't have found us, but IMO it's still a worthwhile effort.

    The conversation with the CT state health department worker drone was entertaining. "So where do you think you got it?" I responded with something to the effect of "did you miss the part where I mentioned I'm an ICU nurse who has been dealing with C19 off and on for most of the last year??????" I don't know how/where I slipped up, but most likely at work. Wife has barely left the house in the last 8 months, so for sure it was my dumb ass that brought it home. We are/were lucky. I've dealt with enough cases now to know being young/healthy/fit is no guarantee of how you'll do.

    Haven't noticed a bump in c-diff here, maybe a bit more MRSA. Caveat: I'm only in a mid-size level 2 facility, in a 20 bed ICU.
    Quote Originally Posted by scrublover View Post
    thanks.

    the first few months were (as y'all have seen) really, really shitty. fast forward to now, and we aren't so bad - we've got a better handle on treatment protocols and screening/testing/earlier diagnosing. we're not just intubating and sedating EVERYONE thus saving ICU beds for those who really need them otherwise. even with that though, our local system is stressed - lot's of other nurses and docs out with the same. IMO, it's just a result of growing complacent and getting lax with our precautions.

    it's interesting/scary seeing the coverage from the south and midwest right now. we SHOWED them what was coming, and how to deal with it.
    Nice to hear from ya D, I was wondering what was up with you. Glad to hear that you weren't too badly affected. It's also really good to hear the the hospital isn't completely swamped and I'm hearing that the system is getting worked pretty hard all around the area too.

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    "Both the Diocese and Agudath Israel maintain that the regulations treat
    houses of worship much more harshly than comparable secular facilities.
    And they tell us without contradiction that
    they have complied with all public health guidance, have
    implemented additional precautionary measures, and have
    operated at 25% or 33% capacity for months without a single outbreak. "

    "In a red zone, while a synagogue or church may not admit
    more than 10 persons, businesses categorized as “essential”
    may admit as many people as they wish.

    And the list of “essential” businesses includes things such as acupuncture
    facilities, camp grounds, garages, as well as many whose
    services are not limited to those that can be regarded as essential,
    such as all plants manufacturing chemicals and microelectronics and all transportation facilities. See New
    York State, Empire State Development, Guidance for Determining Whether a Business Enterprise is Subject to a
    Workforce Reduction Under Recent Executive Orders,
    https://esd.ny.gov/guidance-executive-order-2026.

    The disparate treatment is even more striking in an orange zone.
    While attendance at houses of worship is limited to 25 persons, even non-essential businesses may decide for themselves how many persons to admit
    "

    blah blah blah blah /./././././

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinion...20a87_4g15.pdf


    There needs to be a reasonable approach that allows for the same patron density that other stores and transit and similar venues allow.
    The SCOTUS agrees.
    Not allowed to flout guidelines, but not being penalized for being religious venues.
    This makes sense.
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    Just got a text from a friend this morning passing on news that someone we knew in college died of Covid. He was 52 years old and had no pre-existing conditions. Fuck.

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    Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

    Sorry man


    Just because houses of worship have been documented as the source of superspreader events they shouldnt be limited!!!

    Freedom for my religion even if it means that the virus reverberates through society and strikes down people completely unrelated to the gathering.

    But I’m about 99.999999% sure that God isnt going to punish you for not physically being inside some man made 4 walls during a Pandemic but I wonder what the tally on your ledger will be for being willfully ignorant and contributing to others deaths.


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    Morning stall cleaning ponderings (I swear this is where I do my best thinking - LOL!!):

    Throughout this last year I've been going to the same grocery stores I always have with the same staff working there and I've yet to read that one has had to shut down for cleaning because and employee has tested positive for Covid or had a familiar clerk be out sick.

    All stores have plexiglass dividers, SD mark-offs, cart sanitizing stations and the staff wear masks. A lot of people come through these stores daily. Does this not speak to the effectivness of mitigation? Does this not prove that if we all do the simple things suggested, wear a mask, keep our distance etc. we can function on a realtively normal basis until we get a vaccine and knock this thing down or am I smoking crack?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The AD View Post
    Just got a text from a friend this morning passing on news that someone we knew in college died of Covid. He was 52 years old and had no pre-existing conditions. Fuck.
    When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis


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    ^^
    You are not on crack. You are an intelligent, caring person. I wish more people on the planet were like you. It's not that fucking hard.
    Be smart, wear mask, follow scientific guidlines, get vaccine. Why the hell can't people not be fucking idiots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KQ View Post
    Morning stall cleaning ponderings (I swear this is where I do my best thinking - LOL!!):

    Throughout this last year I've been going to the same grocery stores I always have with the same staff working there and I've yet to read that one has had to shut down for cleaning because and employee has tested positive for Covid or had a familiar clerk be out sick.

    All stores have plexiglass dividers, SD mark-offs, cart sanitizing stations and the staff wear masks. A lot of people come through these stores daily. Does this not speak to the effectivness of mitigation? Does this not prove that if we all do the simple things suggested, wear a mask, keep our distance etc. we can function on a realtively normal basis until we get a vaccine and knock this thing down or am I smoking crack?
    The two are not mutually exclusive.

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    Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

    Kiddo’s day care closed for the second time in a span of ten days. First, it was a cook who tested positive. Now, it’s one of the teachers. The kid has serious genetic and developmental issues so dealing with him without daycare and school support is hard to say the least. We’ll all get tested over the weekend just to know where we stand.

    In other news, my aunt (66 yo) and her family in CA got COVID. She is in the hospital after 8 days of fiver. Her son and his daughter are at home with fiver and cough.

    fuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by KQ View Post
    Morning stall cleaning ponderings (I swear this is where I do my best thinking - LOL!!):

    Throughout this last year I've been going to the same grocery stores I always have with the same staff working there and I've yet to read that one has had to shut down for cleaning because and employee has tested positive for Covid or had a familiar clerk be out sick.

    All stores have plexiglass dividers, SD mark-offs, cart sanitizing stations and the staff wear masks. A lot of people come through these stores daily. Does this not speak to the effectivness of mitigation? Does this not prove that if we all do the simple things suggested, wear a mask, keep our distance etc. we can function on a realtively normal basis until we get a vaccine and knock this thing down or am I smoking crack?
    KQ, you r00l, dump the self doubt.

    Scientific method continues to be a threat or irritant to a lot of people. Lots of scientists lack the social skills to convince some people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lvovsky View Post
    Kiddo’s day care closed for the second time in a span of ten days. First, it was a cook who tested positive. Now, it’s one of the teachers. The kid has serious genetic and developmental issues so dealing with him without daycare and school support is hard to say the least. We’ll all get tested over the weekend just to know where we stand.

    In other news, my aunt (66 yo) and her family in CA got COVID. She is in the hospital after 8 days of fiver. Her son and his daughter are at home with fiver and cough.

    fuck
    condolences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frorider View Post
    https://www.politico.eu/article/ital...racy-theories/

    Italian stupidity beyond the Jersey Shore.
    Wouldn't it make more sense for these COVID deniers to go to the hospital's fake COVID wings, with the fake COVID patients and breathe deeply the fake COVID air in order to prove that the disease is fake?
    "We don't beat the reaper by living longer, we beat the reaper by living well and living fully." - Randy Pausch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadman View Post
    Wouldn't it make more sense for these COVID deniers to go to the hospital's fake COVID wings, with the fake COVID patients and breathe deeply the fake COVID air in order to prove that the disease is fake?
    Would be helpful for them to do room cleaning in the hospitals and help out in the morgues. Good job stimulus program for deniers.

    They’d save the system money because they wouldn’t need PPE and wouldn’t sue when they got sick because it’s just the flu.

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    There really should just be Covidtown, where you get sent if you can’t deal with mask laws, want to violate the closures, etc.
    All the freedoms you want except the freedom to leave. You have to quarantine in a facility for 14 days to come back to live with the rest of us.

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    The problem with the internet is that Bukowski actually said, "the problem is that bad writers tend to have self-confidence, while the good ones tend to have self-doubt".

    Fifty years earlier, Bertrand Russell wrote the fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.

    Russell is widely considered to be the originator, but was probably paraphrasing Yeats, who wrote the best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
    The problem with the internet is that Bukowski actually said, "the problem is that bad writers tend to have self-confidence, while the good ones tend to have self-doubt".

    Fifty years earlier, Bertrand Russell wrote the fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.

    Russell is widely considered to be the originator, but was probably paraphrasing Yeats, who wrote the best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.
    I’m surprised that Dylan doesn’t have a well known lyric paraphrasing all of this as well.
    Maybe he does?
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    There was an article in the Atlantic, reshared the last couple of days, talking about nuance. Tell people to just stay home and they are rightfully resentful and rebel and don't.

    Better approach is to tell people to limit high risk activities and do what they have to do safer.

    For instance being in the grocery store for a short time is relatively safe as KQ points out.

    I thought soccer would be safe this summer, and it could have been, but the safe was lost in the details. People are idiots.

    It is the details we should be focusing on. I think we would be a lot more successful.

    I tried to argue this to a liberal journalist and caught hell fire from her and her supporters. Stay home! You are part of the problem! Meanwhile she voted in person and I voted absentee. She has a social quarantine circle and I consider everybody infectious.

    I'm a liberal. But science rules. And science says we can do a lot more than stay home and contain this pandemic. To a degree it isn't as much what you do, as how you do it. You can't eat at at a restaurant safely but you can eat restaurant food safely.

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    You guys sound pretty cocksure about all that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    I’m surprised that Dylan doesn’t have a well known lyric paraphrasing all of this as well.
    Maybe he does?
    Good and bad, I defined these terms
    Quote clear, no doubt somehow . . .

    But I was so much older then
    I'm younger than that now

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    Who can explain it, who can tell you why?
    Fools give you reasons, wise men never try

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    Yeah, that Constitutional guarantee of religious freedom, super-annoying, amirite?

    And when in the past we’ve disregarded core civil liberties to (supposedly) make ourselves safer - like the Japanese internment camps - we’ve never been ashamed later!

    Happy Thanksgiving!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharon Needles View Post
    Yeah, that Constitutional guarantee of religious freedom, super-annoying, amirite?
    Pretty much, yeah.

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    Do churches need to flow fire safety code for maximum occupancy?

    Also... take it to polyass jong

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