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11-23-2020, 11:05 AM #30626Registered User
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I was looking into this the other day. Sounds like vaccines for HCWs might be happening as soon as next month, which is cray-z. But yeah, it also sounds like there is a rough distro plan in place, but no plan as to how to negotiate who gets a vaccine and when. If it is anything like the tests rolled out, we are F-ed in the A!
If next July is the real goal when the general public will be receiving these vaccines, I'd think we are more likely to reach herd mentality (sp).
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11-23-2020, 11:06 AM #30627
Make sure to pay attention to this very important announcement regarding the latest CDC regulations. Because if it saves even ONE life...
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11-23-2020, 11:10 AM #30628
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11-23-2020, 11:13 AM #30629
CA needs to elect Jello Biafra for governor.
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11-23-2020, 11:17 AM #30630Registered User
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Right, and UT general public distribution is roughly July. What is it for your state?
It's a long road to 'avoid the noid' with cases so high these days. My elderly Mom should get the vaccine way before July, which is great news. My young kids....well they are SOL!
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11-23-2020, 11:22 AM #30631Registered User
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11-23-2020, 11:27 AM #30632
The general target date I've read is July for all states, but some populations, independent of state, may get a vaccine by mid-December.
It's a long road to 'avoid the noid' with cases so high these days. My elderly Mom should get the vaccine way before July, which is great news. My young kids....well they are SOL!Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
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11-23-2020, 11:29 AM #30633
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11-23-2020, 11:33 AM #30634Registered User
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I feel like, if handled correctly, the vaccine overlords could use scarcity and perceived need to convince more people to get the vaccine than if they end up begging people to get vaccinated. Another approach would be to make it a status symbol. Requiring vaccination to travel, or to get preferable loan terms on a house or new car! Hand out gold collectible bracelets with your social security imprinted on them.
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11-23-2020, 11:33 AM #30635
California's plan is to target high risk communities, in addition to HCW's, essential workers, and high risk individuals--Black and Latino communities with multigenerational households. I'm sure there will be an uproar as that starts to be implemented--Chad and Karen will not be happy. (Why Chad? The male equivalent of a Karen should be a Donald.)
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11-23-2020, 11:35 AM #30636
In addition to less stringent storage needs the Astrazeneca vaccine is also: less costly, no hospitalized or severe cases of COVID, no serious safety events, plus they saw fewer asymptomatic cases which is a separate issue apart from efficacy.
I haven't seen a good explanation, just lots of speculation, about why a low dose 1st injection had higher efficacy (90% vs 62%) but if it proves to be the case after more analysis then that's a good result.
The key takeaways:
- Phase 3 interim analysis including 131 Covid-19 cases indicates that the vaccine is 70.4% effective when combining data from two dosing regimens
- In the two different dose regimens vaccine efficacy was 90% in one and 62% in the other
- Higher efficacy regimen used a halved first dose and standard second dose
- Early indication that vaccine could reduce virus transmission from an observed reduction in asymptomatic infections
- There were no hospitalized or severe cases in anyone who received the vaccine
- Large safety database from over 24,000 volunteers from clinical trials in the UK, Brazil and South Africa, with follow up since April
- Crucially, vaccine can be easily administered in existing healthcare systems, stored at ‘fridge temperature’ (2-8 °C) and distributed using existing logistics
- Large scale manufacturing ongoing in over 10 countries to support equitable global access
https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-11-23...vid-19-vaccineLast edited by MultiVerse; 11-23-2020 at 01:45 PM.
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11-23-2020, 11:35 AM #30637
I just would like to thank everyone for ignoring MontuckyFried's chicken fucking.
We're making progress in this thread...
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11-23-2020, 11:39 AM #30638
Well, the wife still has symptoms (sore throat and cough) and now a low-grade, <100F fever. She had a negative rapid test Friday, but they want her to cancel all home health visits and go in for a PCR test specimen draw today. IMO, they should do another rapid test today but it sounds like they won't. Seems like the least they could do since they don't even require her patients to wear masks during treatment (but she wears one of course). Her exposure was a patient but they don't really GAF.
No symptoms for me so far other than a GI issue, but I ate some gnarly mexican take-out yesterday that is probably the cause of that.
I really was looking forward to sitting on a chairlift Thursday, but I guess that's probably not happening. Thanks science-denying assholes.
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11-23-2020, 11:40 AM #30639
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11-23-2020, 11:43 AM #30640
The higher efficacy in the 1/2 dose--full dose regimen, compared to the full dose full dose regimen seems odd. There must have been a theoretical basis to consider testing both regimens. Mofro--can you explain?
The press release notes statistical significance of p<0.001. It isn't clear if that is for only for both regimens compared to placebo, or if it applies to the difference between the two regimens as well.
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11-23-2020, 11:43 AM #30641
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11-23-2020, 11:44 AM #30642?
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Seems they have already launched an assult on Christmas shopping at your local stores. Or am I missing something? Stay home. And Amazon! Fuck yeah. I am waiting to see video of tents set up in the shopping mall. Cuz it's getting cold. I am noticing that people are not taking about or reporting about homeless. It's just too depressing so ignore it. As a coping mechanism
Own your fail. ~Jer~
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11-23-2020, 11:44 AM #30643
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11-23-2020, 11:48 AM #30644
Even vaccinating 20% of the population will have an enormous impact if it’s targeted at high risk individuals. Add to that the 20% or so already infected, 30% or higher by February, and perhaps we start to approach a shambolic herd immunity by spring.
In the meantime, once the vaccines starts rolling out, we'll probably start seeing people behaving like ebikers on non-ebike trails telling everyone they have doctors note, instead telling everyone they've already been vaccinated.
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11-23-2020, 11:48 AM #30645
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11-23-2020, 11:48 AM #30646
They aren't going to do another rapid test because they are in short supply. Fuck you Donald Trump, this SHOULD NOT be a problem 8 months later.
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11-23-2020, 11:53 AM #30647Registered User
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11-23-2020, 11:55 AM #30648
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11-23-2020, 11:59 AM #30649
A troll creates multiple aliases to make it seem like a lot of people agree with him. Kind of like the way a small ambushed army unit uses a high rate of fire to make it seem like there are more of them than there really are.
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11-23-2020, 12:18 PM #30650Banned
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