Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

[The AD]

Fatties in this area are very few and far between.

[XXX-er]

FWIW I've seen about a dozen BC plates here in Bellingham over the last six weeks or so. When you do the 24 hr timelapse of the border cam there are a few cars driving through (both directions).

I think you gotta have pretty good reason to cross the border

[skifishbum]

Love all the people talking bout NH without any experience, just like your COVID statements. Ottime gets a pass as a Mainer.

Oh I gots to experience an entire Soli season of the rog
I fear the Legend of the helmet&tailclipless wiggle butt bellboy turn counter will be lost cause it was a can't hang 1 and done back to now am chire or however his annoying voice called it

[schuss]

Oh I gots to experience an entire Soli season of the rog
I fear the Legend of the helmet&tailclipless wiggle butt bellboy turn counter will be lost cause it was a can't hang 1 and done back to now am chire or however his annoying voice called it

One person does not a state make
If it did, you'd be an interesting choice for Utah

[Buster Highmen]

I've been to New Hampshire.
It was nice.

[bobz]

I've been curious how they'll handle PCT thru hikers. Seems there are plenty who've said F covid and are doing their hikes anyways despite closures and pleas from PCTA org not to thru hike "because the trail isn't closed". These aren't day users obviously and some of their resupply points will be closed. Was wondering if the park stayed closed if they'd have a ranger sitting on trail at the park boundary turning them all back. They have a ways to go but Sequoia/Kings Canyon are closer and closed for now also.

Well, currently, most to all of the relevant agencies aren't issuing permits, and the parks (or Yosemite, at least) are closed to entry by any means. So, basically, thru-hiking isn't happening right now in the high Sierra. Except for people who are out stealth-style, which, by definition, sacrifices the usual access conveniences.

But I assume once permits are being issued, it's game on for the thru-hikers. That may happen fairly soon, or should at least, as wilderness travel has to be near rock-bottom for virus spreading potential. Ix-nay on the Reds Meadows resupply, but most of the rest should work fine. I'm sure VVR will be open, with some modifications in the cafe service.

[buttahflake]

New Hampshire is always in the top five for most livable states, year in and year out. It just is. Almost zero crime, seriously safe place to live. Business friendly, lots of opportunity. Sea coast, lakes and mountains. Low taxes, easy place to retire. I’ll never leave.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings

[XXX-er]

But it's not the summer travel season yet. I have a feeling it's going to be difficult to extend the closure into summer. Could just be wishful thinking on my part, because I plan to travel to B.C. as soon as I'm able.

we have a public HC system where the politicians listen to what the top doc's ( Bonnie Henry & Teresa Tam ) say, not the other way around, essential goods (2 billion worth) still cross the border but the border is closed for another month to non-esssential travel.

The PM (who had & recovered from covid) has the say on openning up the border, so far he has acted on the recs of the public HC proffesionals and there are not karens demonstating to open the border so they can buy shoes at nordstroms so in other words its not political

how things are looking down there in another month might be key on whether the border is kept closed for another month

[XXX-er]

But it's not the summer travel season yet. I have a feeling it's going to be difficult to extend the closure into summer. Could just be wishful thinking on my part, because I plan to travel to B.C. as soon as I'm able.

we have a public HC system where the politicians listen to what the top doc's ( Bonnie Henry & Teresa Tam ) say,

the PM (who has had covid) has the say on openning up the border, so far he has acted on the recs of public HC proffesionals in other words its not political so how things are looking down there might be key its closed for another month.



No this is not a muslim terrorist maybe just the antichrist, but actualy it is our PM wearing a mask

https://globalnews.ca/news/6963598/c...YYCfrRygG-Gxt8

[Core Shot]

Ain't the rog from there
All I needs to know about it
Actually I thought coreshot and ride it were gonna loose it in March
But I was wrong
I hope to buy them them both a shot if anybody bakes at djongos western skioff qualude bongathilon in the hole thing

Been twenty years since I had a bongathalon.
But I did win. Before I nearly died.

Hah. Would love to pull a few tubes someday.
On snow.
Without a mask.

[Ottime]

FWIW, I like NH a lot. Some of the wildest parties growing up were in towns just across thee border. Just always had to remember to slow the roll once across or you might up paying a lot for a realignment.

Gorgeous sliver of the north east. While NH May skew red in the region, it is left of center overall on the big scale.

[bennymac]

FWIW, I like NH a lot. Some of the wildest parties growing up were in towns just across thee border. Just always had to remember to slow the roll once across or you might up paying a lot for a realignment.

Gorgeous sliver of the north east. While NH May skew red in the region, it is left of center overall on the big scale.

Plus you could get your basketball sneakers for cheap there

[Ottime]

Plus you could get your basketball sneakers for cheap there

Fuck. We shopped in NH for everything. Including cars.

[bennymac]

Got some Larry Bird converse all-stars from the outlet in North Conway - I was a materialistic kid because I remember that as the highlight of the area and not the mountains.

[Deebased]

I used the worst case as was unclear whether the 7 hospitalizations referred to the 678 positive or the later number for 1156 and 7 was the total ever hospitalized ? ( never saw the 1500 number). But the death rate based on 1156 positives was only 0.09%. Again not a representative number.

"The ships should provide significant insight into susceptibility."--- Not sure about that as if you have ever toured a naval ship or aircraft carrier, not a lot of difference density wise, you would think that would be the worst case possible. Close sleeping arrangements, close working and eating even hallways are pretty tight. SDing would be impossible.

Sorry that should have read 1156 (not 1500).

The relatively low number of infections is the second half of my point. 4500 sailors/1156 infections in close quarters for ~ 7 weeks with no SD'ing.

[DougW]

I would imagine that during at least part of the 7 weeks they would of tried some sort of SDing. But very hard as you say. I think there are only two cafeterias on a CVN . It would be interesting to see the breakdown by dept as I would imagine mess decks would be by dept , so the people you work with you also bunk with.

[Best Mexican Skier from Da South]

I've started wearing my girl's white silk Victoria's Secret panties over my face to Costco. They feel very nice on the skin. And there are some good laughs to be had with folks who have a sense of humor. I thought of maybe adding a small line of strawberry jam to the crotch for effect, but haven't done that yet. LOL

I'm not sure if I have the nerve, but I fantasize about wearing a leather gimp mask with the zipper over the mouth. I asked my girl if she would go to Costco with me wearing it... while having a dog collar round my neck... with her holding the leash. She says she draws the line at gimp mask, but that would be a hilarious! It would be an excellent troll. If anyone has the balls to do that, I'll gladly buy you a beer. LOL

[Benny Profane]

New Hampshire is always in the top five for most livable states, year in and year out. It just is. Almost zero crime, seriously safe place to live. Business friendly, lots of opportunity. Sea coast, lakes and mountains. Low taxes, easy place to retire. I’ll never leave.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings

Except that it's frozen half the year.

[Vt-Freeheel]

[Adolf Allerbush]

Sorry that should have read 1156 (not 1500).

The relatively low number of infections is the second half of my point. 4500 sailors/1156 infections in close quarters for ~ 7 weeks with no SD'ing.

Active cases at the time of testing, which didn't include testing for antibodies, so the total number of sailors that had the disease could be much higher? also, 26% infection rate is "low" in your view? Regardless, this is a relatively healthy population compared to the rest of the US. I'm not sure their death rates or rates of serious complications are indicative of the general population.

[evdog]

Well, currently, most to all of the relevant agencies aren't issuing permits, and the parks (or Yosemite, at least) are closed to entry by any means. So, basically, thru-hiking isn't happening right now in the high Sierra. Except for people who are out stealth-style, which, by definition, sacrifices the usual access conveniences.

But I assume once permits are being issued, it's game on for the thru-hikers. That may happen fairly soon, or should at least, as wilderness travel has to be near rock-bottom for virus spreading potential. Ix-nay on the Reds Meadows resupply, but most of the rest should work fine. I'm sure VVR will be open, with some modifications in the cafe service.

Most thru hikers had their permits in hand before Trump flu hit. The PCT permit covers all jurisdictions along the hike they were permitted for, and these permits weren't cancelled by the Forest Service. But the Forest Service isn't issuing new permits and the hikers have to follow the terms of the permit they had. Which means respecting local rules and closures. Not sure how that works when California is still under state wide stay at home order. The PCT permits are also restricted this year to starting on the date and location on the permit, not skipping ahead or back, and hikers were only given a certain number of days to get through the Sierras too, to avoid them bunching up in spots due to snow or other issues. I'm sure if the Forest Service wanted to enforce this could screw up a lot of peoples' hikes. But all levels of government only seem to be enforcing extreme circumstances. Closed resupply points will no doubt make it harder for them if they are let into the parks. Current update from PCTA/USFS from May 18: https://www.pcta.org/discover-the-trail/permits/

[iceman]

@Adolph: He's turning shrill, I suggest more distancing.

[iceman]

Trump flu

Stealing that.

[BmillsSkier]

Cool stuff out of my Alma Mater today regarding antibodies and a preliminary positive indication for a vaccine.

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/exp...PHPMVCPQFPG4Q/

Antibodies and immunity:

http://news.emory.edu/stories/2020/0...t_on_immunity/

[Best Mexican Skier from Da South]

More fun!

Credit Max Siedentopf at https://www.dezeen.com/2020/02/17/al...ax-siedentopf/

You can eat your mask after you're done running errands. LOL