Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

[skifishbum]

Somebody started a thread about you this morning.

and it only took 3 post for you to git a nomination as

Bunny has been an innovator at the forefront of the Asshole era.

strong work asshole

[KQ]

Could we get an abstract please? "Wow" isn't giving me much to go on here.

A G.O.P. Lawmaker Had the Virus. Nobody Told Democrats Exposed to Him.

[Bunion 2020]

the facts continue to reduce the IFR and increase the asymptomatic %

But yeah bro, keep pushing a narrative thats in your own self-interest

OK, but as a well broadcast nutjob said yesterday, "its an illness that only has a 1% fatality rate, whats to worry?"

So if 20-40-60% of people with this illness are not symptomatic yet they can spread the illness, going by nutjobs IFR around 3.25 MILLION Americans will die from this eventually.

So please enlighten me as to how that is anybodies "self interest"? Because I for one have no idea what point you are trying to score/make.

Right now no one has a handle on the real IFR.

[seano732]

Fuck this I’m done. Wake me up in 2021.....
“Monkeys steal Covid samples after attacking lab assistant. “

https://twitter.com/secupp/status/12...546362880?s=21

[Deebased]

OK, but as a well broadcast nutjob said yesterday, "its an illness that only has a 1% fatality rate, whats to worry?"

So if 20-40-60% of people with this illness are not symptomatic yet they can spread the illness, around 3.25 MILLION Americans will die from this eventually.

So please enlighten me as to how that is anybodies "self interest"? Because I for one have no idea what point you are trying to score/make.

Its the #sacrificeformysafety crowd. Much of the TGR dental crew falls into that higher-risk population, they also don't have to "pay" for the 10T or so the Brrrr machine is printing. So its easy for them to advocate #fuckyourfuture to the lower risk populations. Of course there are a few tech bros who are enjoying the stay at home mandates and a few more that have seen their relative incomes increase staying at home.

[Benny Profane]

Fuck this I’m done. Wake me up in 2021.....
“Monkeys steal Covid samples after attacking lab assistant. “

https://twitter.com/secupp/status/12...546362880?s=21

This in the comments.

[seano732]

This in the comments.

lulz......

[Adolf Allerbush]

OK, but as a well broadcast nutjob said yesterday, "its an illness that only has a 1% fatality rate, whats to worry?"

So if 20-40-60% of people with this illness are not symptomatic yet they can spread the illness, going by nutjobs IFR around 3.25 MILLION Americans will die from this eventually.

So please enlighten me as to how that is anybodies "self interest"? Because I for one have no idea what point you are trying to score/make.

Right now no one has a handle on the real IFR.

A lot of these arguments seem to be around dismissing the virus as NBD so as to lessen the economic impact in spite of what deaths may occur. I can't opine about the ethics of this way of viewing our current situation. We do seem to go through these arguments one at a time, sometimes repeatedly, and end up back at square one after smarter people than me, Deeb, etc. point out the flaws in their logic.

One thought, just of the top of my head, at Deeb's 1% fatality rate, 3.3 million deaths would be quite the hit on the economy. To put it in perspective, the US population grows by about 2.2-2.4 million people per year, and that drives a lot of our economic growth.

Long way of saying that no matter your take on the severity of the virus, that many deaths isn't going to help our economic situation.

[MultiVerse]

Take it up with the CDC if you don't like those stats.

Also, taking a small snapshot (NYC) that was horrendously mismanaged and 100% non-representative of the US population much less the world does not make a point.

Are you innumerate? Because I used your CDC numbers. NYC is also on average healthier than the US population and those results are in line with meta-analysis from other regions and countries. In fact, a broad aggregation of seroprevalence surveys indicates COVID-19 is at least 5 to 10 times more deadly for adults than the flu, even a bad flu season.

Tough to conceive how broad the range continues to be for the asymptomatic. I've seen 25-90% as well as the postulation from MV that there its 0 and the asymptomatic are pre-symptomatic.

It looks like you are both innumerate and mendacious because I've never written there are 0 asymptomatic. I have said meta-analysis indicates about 40% of carriers are asymptomatic.

[Elkhound Odin]

A lot of these arguments seem to be around dismissing the virus as NBD so as to lessen the economic impact in spite of what deaths may occur. I can't opine about the ethics of this way of viewing our current situation. We do seem to go through these arguments one at a time, sometimes repeatedly, and end up back at square one after smarter people than me, Deeb, etc. point out the flaws in their logic.

One thought, just of the top of my head, at Deeb's 1% fatality rate, 3.3 million deaths would be quite the hit on the economy. To put it in perspective, the US population grows by about 2.2-2.4 million people per year, and that drives a lot of our economic growth.

Long way of saying that no matter your take on the severity of the virus, that many deaths isn't going to help our economic situation.

I dunno. Death industry certainly can’t be hurting.


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[XXX-er]

a buddy took the middle of a pandemic to open an affordable coffin company and he sold his 1st coffin

[Bunion 2020]

Thinking inside the box as it were.

[skaredshtles]

Are you innumerate? Because I used your CDC numbers. NYC is also on average healthier than the US population and those results are in line with meta-analysis from other regions and countries. In fact, a broad aggregation of seroprevalence surveys indicates COVID-19 is at least 5 to 10 times more deadly for adults than the flu, even a bad flu season.





It looks like you are both innumerate and mendacious because I've never written there are 0 asymptomatic. I have said meta-analysis indicates about 40% of carriers are asymptomatic.

1. Stop arguing with the trolls
2. STOP QUOTING the trolls.

Please.

[Bunion 2020]

Its the #sacrificeformysafety crowd. Much of the TGR dental crew falls into that higher-risk population, they also don't have to "pay" for the 10T or so the Brrrr machine is printing. So its easy for them to advocate #fuckyourfuture to the lower risk populations. Of course there are a few tech bros who are enjoying the stay at home mandates and a few more that have seen their relative incomes increase staying at home.

As opposed to the #sacrificeformyeconomicfuture?

While I have to commend you for the honesty of #fuckyoujustdiealready, ain't no guarantees for anyone or their future.

I cannot recall your most recent stance on #Climatechange but my guess is that is #nobigdeal either.

[Deebased]

Are you innumerate? Because I used your CDC numbers. NYC is also on average healthier than the US population and those results are in line with meta-analysis from other regions and countries. In fact, a broad aggregation seroprevalence surveys indicates COVID-19 is at least 5 to 10 times more deadly for adults than even a bad flu season.





It looks like you are both innumerate and a liar because I've never written there's 0 asymptomatic. I have written that meta-analysis indicates about 40% of carriers are asymptomatic.

While that's your position today, but not historically.
I've postulated 40-90% for months. You've argued incessantly that its far less and perhaps non-existent.


Regardless, welcome to the party, we're glad you're here.

[MultiVerse]

Never, not once, have I argued there are no asymptomatic carriers. Because Deeb is dumb and mendacious Deeb continues to confuse/conflate infectious and/or pre-symptomatic with asymptomatic. He was confused about it back when he argued 90% of the infectious are asymptomatic, and he's confused about it now.

Maybe he should consider taking an introductory math class? There are lots of online options.

[jono]

Not a denier in any way.

I don't think there's some intrinsic value in anyone's life, that's a relic of our religious belief systems.

Say what you will about the tenets of national socialism, at least it's an ethos.

Economics denier? Market value of a human life lost due to on the job risk is $10M at last assessment, taking .01%/year as average risk increase (the market pays $1000/year increase at that risk level). This does not account for price increases due to a spike in demand for risk-taking employees or for higher-paid employees who aren't normally asked to accept on the job risk.

Advertised bonuses for nurses and the number of dentists seeking to hire dental hygienists these days indicate that either the perceived risk is more than .01% or the price to hire risk takers has already risen significantly. It is cheaper to recognize the economic value of human life and pay what it costs to reduce the risk than to accept a certain number of dead and pay the workers accordingly.

The fact that the United States has been able to hire patriots and the poverty-stricken to die at the order of their country for pennies on the dollar has blinded many people to the real cost of risk in the middle of the labor market. To say nothing of the upper end.

[Deebased]

As opposed to the #sacrificeformyeconomicfuture?

While I have to commend you for the honesty of #fuckyoujustdiealready, ain't no guarantees for anyone or their future.

I cannot recall your most recent stance on #Climatechange but my guess is that is #nobigdeal either.

The inter-relation of climate change and C19 response is one of the better short-term arguments to allow nature to take its course. Longer term the deaths caused by the c19 response and media is/will vastly exceed the final IFR.

[Deebased]

Never, not once, have I argued there are no asymptomatic carriers. Because you are dumb and mendacious you are continuing to confuse/conflate infectious and/or pre-symptomatic with asymptomatic. You were confused about it back when you argued 90% of the infectious are asymptomatic, and you are confused about it now.

Have you considered taking an introductory math class? There are lots of online options.

I tapped out at computational number theory but I've done pretty well working with Bruce and a few other luminaries in the last 2 decades.

Thanks for the offer though.

[MultiVerse]

And yet numerators and denominators still confuse you.


Also, the quoted text in Deeb's post below appears to be fabricated. So yeah, both innumerate and mendacious.

[Deebased]

Are you sure the asymptomatic aren't merely pre-symptomaic?

We can equivocate over the sentence structure but your underlying thesis remains the same.

[skaredshtles]

STOP ARGUING WITH THE TROLL.

Please?

[Bunion 2020]

Longer term the deaths caused by the c19 response and media is/will vastly exceed the final IFR.

Not my point, but you already knew that.

You are free to fuck off now.

[Self Jupiter]

STOP ARGUING WITH THE TROLL.

Please?

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[Lone Star]

Take your fucking Polyass bullshit back where it belongs and die in a trailer fire you POS. And for those quoting and replying to him, fuck you too.

why dont you do the same and stop with the deebased quotes.