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    Quote Originally Posted by KQ View Post
    Donald Trump Has Stake In Hydroxychloroquine Drugmaker: Report

    http://huffp.st/DJf5ryj
    We can probably disregard the whole Trump COA around HCQ. The availability of generics means the cost should stay low which also means that for large companies like Bayer and Sanofi, it won't move the bottom line much.

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    Let's just say that this is the level of details one needs in order to understand where we were and where we stand today. This also represents the quality of information we should all aspire to. Turn to this playlist before you read another CNN, Fox news or opinion piece. Choose your sources wisely.

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...PXtMzA9mgqsXoW

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    Anyone that owns a broad based mutual fund has a stake in everything. That's the definition of diversification.

    Trump notwithstanding, the CARES act restricting loans for anyone in congress/fed govt discourages business participation in government.

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    Hydroxychloroquine is not a highly profitable drug. It is old, cheap to make, and out of patent.

    Also, it probably doesn't work for COVID.
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    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    Anyone that owns a broad based mutual fund has a stake in everything. That's the definition of diversification.

    Trump notwithstanding, the CARES act restricting loans for anyone in congress/fed govt discourages business participation in government.
    This, as much as I dislike Trump. I probably have some stake in Sanofi, and probably a funeral home chain as well. Trump is just incompetent and an idiot who has no idea how medicine works (despite what he thinks.)

    I agree it is a constitutional right for Americans to be assholes...its just too bad that so many take the opportunity...
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    The only take I have is it brings the snake oil salesmen out in that fat orange fucktard, which is the only thing he has been successful at in his miserable life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meathelmet View Post
    Deebased go Brrrrrrr.

    First, Sweden have "not gotten it right". Yesterday 71 new deaths (almost same as Norways total, 3 times higher than Finlands total), up to 477.
    Health personnel are livid at health Czar because healthcare is collapsing, government paralysed because they cant/wont rock the boat due to the legislation.
    Den/Nor/Fin talking about easing up the restrictions after easter as the containment has been quite successful and R has dropped below 1.
    Sweden will instead be in the world of pain as the warm weather spell has people massing up in public spaces and having their 'love in the time of cholera' moment.

    Secondly, the isolation of " the most vulnerable: the weak, frail, elderly" has failed miserably. Most, if not all institutions have been infected in the last few days...and you can imagine what the end results will be as the ICU spots are almost full already.

    And economy?? Well, aint you one exceptional Nostradamus? Even the Swedes are not as optimistic as you, and they are optimistic by nature. Pity that nobody else is sharing their sentiment. They are fucked. Fucked like all their neighbours. Will they be more or less fucked is to be seen.
    But that is sure that nobody is putting bets in at the moment about what the end result will be.

    Well, apart from you, that is.
    The bets have already been placed.

    Health Care workers are livid and overwhelmed everywhere. Hell in early March we heard about SK hospitals being overwhelmed, and SK is far from being out of the woods, 500 cases imported, several clusters emerged in the past week, the start of the school year has been delayed and govt is paralyzed with how to balance, mitigate all of these factors.




    The death rate is a trailing indicator, so Sweden will be seeing a continued spike even as the infection rate flattens.

    There's consensus that the Swedes will see more deaths in the next few month,. but instead of a long term high interest rate loan they're paying cash up-front.

    As I stated several pages back, we won't have definitive answers for another 18-24 months, on what approach is successful.

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    As Sweden's situation changes, its policy will likely change as well. The big problem with "take it on the chin," which was never an accurate description, is the policy works until it doesn't and then you risk ending up in an even worse situation.

    We've all seen these best-case versus worst-case projections and people assume the uncertainty lies with the worst case scenario but most of the uncertainty is with the best case scenario. You either manage to control the epidemic, or you lose control.

    Once you lose control people and governments take more extreme measures. Once control is attained people tend to lower their guard and let up on social distancing. There's the plan, and then there's human behavior. Countries that get widespread infections will end up at roughly the same level.


    The mistake debased is making is in assuming these things are static. He watched BGnight's video and assumes it's possible to isolate the most vulnerable—even though the most vulnerable are the most heavily impacted group in spite of lockdowns. He looks at Sweden's GDP today and assumes that's where it will remain even though that depends heavily on the global economy. He assumes Swedish economic policy won't require deficit spending but if the crisis drags on for months then there's no way to avoid it.

    So much confidence in the face of so many unknowns exposes the fact that, like his "no worse than the flu" argument, he's swimming naked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Skied Bandini Mountain View Post
    The only take I have is it brings the snake oil salesmen out in that fat orange fucktard, which is the only thing he has been successful at in his miserable life.
    Let's be completely honest, Trump has been more "successful" on the economic and personal accomplishment front then any of us here. Even if he lies about his true wealth, he still has a higher degree of wealth then us and he accomplished becoming President of the United States of America and one of the most powerful men in the world. What exactly have we all done? Become dentist, saved the money to send kids to college and have a nice retirement?

    And no, I am not talking "true happiness and chi"
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    Quote Originally Posted by gretch6364 View Post
    Let's be completely honest, Trump has been more "successful" on the economic and personal accomplishment front then any of us here. Even if he lies about his true wealth, he still has a higher degree of wealth then us and he accomplished becoming President of the United States of America and one of the most powerful men in the world. What exactly have we all done? Become dentist, saved the money to send kids to college and have a nice retirement?

    And no, I am not talking "true happiness and chi"
    The asshole was born on 3rd and fucked over thousands of people. If you call that success, fine. I call it a greedy fucking asshole who doesn't give a shit about anyone or anything. In my book it's called a failure.

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    Most successful conman in the world. And some fools applaud.
    A few people feel the rain. Most people just get wet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    Hydroxychloroquine is not a highly profitable drug. It is old, cheap to make, and out of patent.

    Also, it probably doesn't work for COVID.
    Yes, however, if it causes the world to buy out all of the supplies of it that can only be good for anyone owning those pharmaceutical companies that make it.
    Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by gretch6364 View Post
    Let's be completely honest, Trump has been more "successful" on the economic and personal accomplishment front then any of us here. Even if he lies about his true wealth, he still has a higher degree of wealth then us and he accomplished becoming President of the United States of America and one of the most powerful men in the world. What exactly have we all done? Become dentist, saved the money to send kids to college and have a nice retirement?

    And no, I am not talking "true happiness and chi"
    You have a supremely fucked up idea/definition of success.

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    This is oddly weired.
    Trumped banned chinese travel very early. Before EU. And getting covid spread asap and having a lot of people die is the fastest way to get the thing through for economics benefits.

    I get what he is doing. He gives a fuck about your grandmother.

    Seens chaotic but...... thats the way. He cannot tell the truth... as always

    Sent from ullr with love!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wooley12 View Post
    Most successful conman in the world. And some fools applaud.
    Exactly. Is being a business success really mismanaging your dad's fortune so horribly that it you would've made more money just leaving the money in the bank and living off of interest? Can't argue with the reality of the situation that Trump con'd people like Gretch and others into believing he's a good businessman and would be a good fit to run the USA.
    Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by gretch6364 View Post
    What exactly have we all done?
    Treated people with respect without regard to physical, racial, or gender identity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gretch6364 View Post
    What exactly have we all done?
    Been much better human beings than Trump. That's something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nordekette View Post
    This is oddly weired.
    Trumped banned chinese travel very early. Before EU. And getting covid spread asap and having a lot of people die is the fastest way to get the thing through for economics benefits.
    It's a myth that President Trump banned travel from China early on. Tens of thousands of Americans and other travelers have come into the U.S. from China in the months since the President imposed travel restrictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gretch6364 View Post
    Let's be completely honest, Trump has been more "successful" on the economic and personal accomplishment front then any of us here. Even if he lies about his true wealth, he still has a higher degree of wealth then us and he accomplished becoming President of the United States of America and one of the most powerful men in the world. What exactly have we all done? Become dentist, saved the money to send kids to college and have a nice retirement?

    And no, I am not talking "true happiness and chi"
    That a man such as Trump could remain wealthy, and be elected president, says far more about the country he resides in, than it does about the man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCMtnHound View Post
    That a man such as Trump could remain wealthy, and be elected president, says far more about the country he resides in, than it does about the man.
    This sums it up better than I could have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gretch6364 View Post
    Let's be completely honest, Trump has been more "successful" on the economic and personal accomplishment front then any of us here. Even if he lies about his true wealth, he still has a higher degree of wealth then us and he accomplished becoming President of the United States of America and one of the most powerful men in the world. What exactly have we all done? Become dentist, saved the money to send kids to college and have a nice retirement?

    And no, I am not talking "true happiness and chi"
    It has been calculated many times that if he invested his 300 million dollar inheritance in a conservative way he'd be worth more than he is today (which isn't as much as you and many think). And it's common knowledge among those that know him that he didnt actually want to be president, he just wanted to enhance his brand, so, he actually failed at that, too. He's the luckiest motherfucker in the world. (Well, actually, Keith Richard's takes that crown, but, whatever) And now he has control of a half trillion dollar slush fund, that you know will enrich him and his family for decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gretch6364 View Post
    Let's be completely honest, Trump has been more "successful" on the economic and personal accomplishment front then any of us here. Even if he lies about his true wealth, he still has a higher degree of wealth then us and he accomplished becoming President of the United States of America and one of the most powerful men in the world. What exactly have we all done? Become dentist, saved the money to send kids to college and have a nice retirement?

    And no, I am not talking "true happiness and chi"
    All the more reason he should be Guillotined (legally).
    Every one of his ‘successes’ has been based on fraud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gretch6364 View Post
    Let's be completely honest, Trump has been more "successful" on the economic and personal accomplishment front then any of us here. Even if he lies about his true wealth, he still has a higher degree of wealth then us and he accomplished becoming President of the United States of America and one of the most powerful men in the world. What exactly have we all done? Become dentist, saved the money to send kids to college and have a nice retirement?

    And no, I am not talking "true happiness and chi"
    It is easy being successful or wealthy if you just get over one little problem...ethics. Trump has never had a problem with ethics. I doubt the thought of all the people he has conned has ever crossed his mind. Well, other then to call them suckers.

    I agree it is a constitutional right for Americans to be assholes...its just too bad that so many take the opportunity...
    iscariot

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    Quote Originally Posted by gretch6364 View Post
    Let's be completely honest, Trump has been more "successful" on the economic and personal accomplishment front then any of us here. Even if he lies about his true wealth, he still has a higher degree of wealth then us and he accomplished becoming President of the United States of America and one of the most powerful men in the world. What exactly have we all done? Become dentist, saved the money to send kids to college and have a nice retirement?

    And no, I am not talking "true happiness and chi"
    Change your bait dude.

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