Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

[mcphee]

I don't listen to lyrics much, just the music..

What a weak copout, guy.

The music is pretty craptastic too! Lowest common denominator shit. 3rd week of guitar lessons shit.


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[ex-powderbroker]

I get the joke, but Elliot Easton is one of the most underrated guitarist of the 70s and The Cars were one of the few original bands in a sea of commercial garbage.

Nugent was just derivative dinosaur rock.

We are saying the same thing. Nugent is derivative crap and some people have no taste.

[old goat]

CDC has published clinical data on the effectiveness of boosters against Delta and Omicron
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/...cid=mm7104e3_w

VE was significantly higher among patients who received their second mRNA COVID-19 vaccine dose <180 days before medical encounters compared with those vaccinated ≥180 days earlier. During both Delta- and Omicron-predominant periods, receipt of a third vaccine dose was highly effective at preventing COVID-19–associated emergency department and urgent care encounters (94% and 82%, respectively) and preventing COVID-19–associated hospitalizations (94% and 90%, respectively).

[skiJ]

Full disclosure, I can still greatly appreciate the artistic works of people I strongly disagree with on a personal or political level. Love Ted Nugent's music, he's a horrible excuse for a human.. On topic, I'm 100% good with Darwin removing as many obtuse obstacles to pandemic necessary measures as he can. It's a bummer, but for the best IMHO..

Bud.

two thoughts
( and remembering 'journaling' ) -

I would not consider this a HO. And

there is an adage,
' never speak ill of the dead... '


... peace, man. skiJ

[Ted Striker]

We are saying the same thing.

and I just wanted to plug EE. When I was a kid learning to play, I'd listen to the first cars album over and over to figure out his parts (Ocasek barely played anything). The guy could shred, but chose the tasteful/music path.

[SumJongGuy]

What a weak copout, guy.

The music is pretty craptastic too! Lowest common denominator shit. 3rd week of guitar lessons shit.


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I dig the drum tracks. Carmine Appice wrote the first rock drums book I learned when I was just starting. Saw his brother play with Sabbath back in the day. Also I have pretty high respect for pretty much anyone who gets up on stage in front of people to share their gifts... or curses. I've seen Ingvie live. I've seen lots of folks. The most badd assed chops aren't always the most soulful and eloquent products.. Joe Strummer wasn't any "better" than Nugent.. but I dig that too. Hell Clapton isn't really all that compared to Stevie.. It's the personal vibes that make folks special, not the raw mechanical chops..

[SumJongGuy]

Bud.

two thoughts
( and remembering 'journaling' ) -

I would not consider this a HO. And

there is an adage,
' never speak ill of the dead... '


... peace, man. skiJ

What you say is true, but I also tend to believe that the passing of these publicly counter productive personalities is preventing ten fold future tragedies that might hit closer to home. Again, I'd prefer they got vaxxed and lived to convince others to also save themselves and their fellow humans.. But if they don't, oh well, I'm going to look at it as a necessary evil..

[~mikey b]

woke up at 3am yesterday with rotten symptoms

I knew I finally had it

tested at 9 at the hospital I work at and had results up by 3

fully vaccinated and boosted

I feel shitty - if this is a milder case I’m fkn glad I didn’t get a bad one

[supermodel159]

I just got over it. One night of chills followed by a morning consisting of minor cold/hangover symptoms. Took some Advil, and by the afternoon no more symptoms. I tested positive for a full week after my first night of chills.

No vaccines.

[riser4]

I liked Nugent. In 5th grade. For about 10 minutes. Cat Scratch Fever and Wango Tango got a lot of airplay on CHOM (Say Awsh Oh Em) FM back then. They were catchy. To a 10 yr old. My friends listening to the local US stations had no idea what I was talking about. Until classic rock stations (WIZN) became a thing around here five years later. The cool thing about CHOM is they also played Dinah Moe Hum. Gotta love Canadians.

[wooley12]

I just got over it. One night of chills followed by a morning consisting of minor cold/hangover symptoms. Took some Advil, and by the afternoon no more symptoms. I tested positive for a full week after my first night of chills.

No vaccines.

Congrats for dodging the bullet. Did you infect anyone while you were contagious?

[ex-powderbroker]

Responsible gun owner vs mask mandates:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/amelia...ave-to-mask-up

[KQ]

[supermodel159]

Congrats for dodging the bullet. Did you infect anyone while you were contagious?

Probably. I got it from some vaxxed/boosted friends. I likely infected my children, however they never had symptoms or tested positive.

Thankfully our immune systems worked as designed!

[SumJongGuy]

That looks like multiple households to me.. They define a household as an "address". So each residence gets 4 tests. Here's the thing though. They start shipping at the end of this month.. But not to ALL zip codes. They're starting with the zip codes with the highest positive case rates and working down to the others.. So, those zip codes in the by gawd no gubbermint mandates states will be getting the tests first, ahead of the more mask and vax adopting zip codes..

[wooley12]

Probably. I got it from some vaxxed/boosted friends. I likely infected my children, however they never had symptoms or tested positive.

Thankfully our immune systems worked as designed!

My wife got hers at Christmas mass from the singing, nose out of his
maskhole. My symptoms a week later mirrored yours. I go N95 plus with another mask over it when indoors in public to be sure I'm not a spreader. My parents taught us kids to be socially responsible.

[ex-powderbroker]

This guy absolutely shreds Robert Malone, who has been getting a lot of ink lately (and referenced via Corn Shit's copy/paste posts), and I found it interesting.

[DougW]

If that Malone guy is the brightest of the anti vaxx then wow.

[old goat]

States are receiving extremely limited supplies of the antiviral combination drug Paxlovid, which is 80% effective in preventing hospitalization if given within 5 days of symptoms to people with mild and moderate cases. Because of the limited supply the drug is supposed to be only given to the people at highest risk. The question is--should the drug be reserved for older vaccinated patients with medical conditions (who are probably still at very low risk from omicron, but not zero) or for unvaccinated otherwise healthy people who are likely at higher risk. Should I--71 with heart disease--be deprived of the drug because some otherwise lower risk person chose not to get vaccinated?

Or should the drug be reserved for NFL QB's who test positive a week before the Super Bowl?

The one obvious priority group would be the immunocompromised--but after that?

And who decides. It will be very hard for an individual doc seeing an individual patient to deny the drug to someone who asks for it, regardless of their risk.

I do think we should start a misinformation campaign to convince the anti-vax folks that Paxlovid shrinks your testicles and breasts and paralyzes the trigger finger.

[SumJongGuy]

States are receiving extremely limited supplies of the antiviral combination drug Paxlovid, which is 80% effective in preventing hospitalization if given within 5 days of symptoms to people with mild and moderate cases. Because of the limited supply the drug is supposed to be only given to the people at highest risk. The question is--should the drug be reserved for older vaccinated patients with medical conditions (who are probably still at very low risk from omicron, but not zero) or for unvaccinated otherwise healthy people who are likely at higher risk. Should I--71 with heart disease--be deprived of the drug because some otherwise lower risk person chose not to get vaccinated?

Or should the drug be reserved for NFL QB's who test positive a week before the Super Bowl?

The one obvious priority group would be the immunocompromised--but after that?

And who decides. It will be very hard for an individual doc seeing an individual patient to deny the drug to someone who asks for it, regardless of their risk.

I do think we should start a misinformation campaign to convince the anti-vax folks that Paxlovid shrinks your testicles and breasts and paralyzes the trigger finger.

Easy solution.. Give the antivax person horse dewormer.

[thedude2340]

What you say is true, but I also tend to believe that the passing of these publicly counter productive personalities is preventing ten fold future tragedies that might hit closer to home. Again, I'd prefer they got vaxxed and lived to convince others to also save themselves and their fellow humans.. But if they don't, oh well, I'm going to look at it as a necessary evil..

You think people were going to Meat Loaf for health and wellness advice?

[SumJongGuy]

You think people were going to Meat Loaf for health and wellness advice?

OK Joe Rogan?

[liv2ski]

OG, after doing all I have been asked to for the last 2 years I am really ready to see major rule changes going forward.
No more lock downs, masks, whatever. Either you have a little common sense and are fully vaccinated and trying to be safe around the those you love that may have compromised health or you're not vaxed and at at the end of the line for all health care. If you are found to be non-vaxed and test positive in public, the first offense is a $10k fine and 6 months in county jail. After that we ship you to a Catalina island with a tent, sleeping bag, some supplies and a pistol with 1 round in it.

[Cono Este]

OG, after doing all I have been asked to for the last 2 years I am really ready to see major rule changes going forward.
No more lock downs, masks, whatever. Either you have a little common sense and are fully vaccinated and trying to be safe around the those you love that may have compromised health or you're not vaxed and at at the end of the line for all health care. If you are found to be non-vaxed and test positive in public, the first offense is a $10k fine and 6 months in county jail. After that we ship you to a Catalina island with a tent, sleeping bag, some supplies and a pistol with 1 round in it.

The vaccine has stopped people from dying, but it’s not stopped people from getting covid. Everyone one around me, family, friends, all vaccinated, and all went down with Covid this month. If we stopped wearing masks, quarantining, and social distancing, it would be worse.

Sitting here trying to get over it, I hope to hell a strain that is equally contagious as Omni, but more resistant to the vaccine does not emerge.

At this point I’m prepared for anything.


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[Bunion 2020]

Split the difference.

People who are willing can get the Vaccines, take precautions and slowly get back to a somewhat normal life.

People who refuse to be vaccinated or take precautions will either get sick and die or get sick and get better and in the process will acquire some level of protection.

We cannot and will not refuse medical care to the people in category 2, its just not how this country functions.

"If" Health Insurance availability and cost is determined by Vax status I am fine with that. Free market and all.