Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

[bodywhomper]

Osterholm on CBS news this morning--"eventually this virus will find you". He feels the virus will continue to circulate until everyone is exposed.

I posted this in the other thread. His 50 minute interview with Slavitt is a bit doom and gloom. I advise listening to the whole thing. Makes me question decisions to mix households and visit elderly vaxed family, especially with children too young to vax.

https://omny.fm/shows/in-the-bubble/...ichael-osterho

[Casey E]

What The Lambda COVID-19 Variant Means For Us Right Now

Lambda was present in Chile since December but didn’t take off. As the only South American country with a high vaccination rate, it seems at least Sinovac works, and probably Pfizer/AZ too.

Delta, on the other hand, is rising.




But most SA countries have falling cases overall, in the middle of winter (mild albeit), so you don”t hear much concern around here.

[riser4]

A Dallas firefighter 'faked Covid results then went to a resort'
William Jordan Carter is accused of lying about testing positive for Covid-19 to take time off.
William Jordan Carter is accused of lying about testing positive for Covid-19 to take time off.
Dallas County Sheriff's Office
William Jordan Carter, a 38-year-old firefighter from Dallas, was charged with theft after allegedly taking paid leave for nearly a month while lying about testing positive for Covid-19.
Bank records show Carter made several purchases during his time off, including nearly $1,400 at Kalahari Resort, a large indoor water park and resort in Round Rock, Texas.

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/p...tes/index.html

[tetzen]

A Dallas firefighter 'faked Covid results then went to a resort'
William Jordan Carter is accused of lying about testing positive for Covid-19 to take time off.
William Jordan Carter is accused of lying about testing positive for Covid-19 to take time off.
Dallas County Sheriff's Office
William Jordan Carter, a 38-year-old firefighter from Dallas, was charged with theft after allegedly taking paid leave for nearly a month while lying about testing positive for Covid-19.
Bank records show Carter made several purchases during his time off, including nearly $1,400 at Kalahari Resort, a large indoor water park and resort in Round Rock, Texas.

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/p...tes/index.html

While shitty of the dude to lie about his Covid results, it's a bit harsh to charge him with theft. Until they criminalize employers stealing wages from employees or underpaying them, this is an unfair result of our current system. Just make the dude pay back any money beyond his banked PTO and fire him. No need to make a criminal case out of this.

[old goat]

While shitty of the dude to lie about his Covid results, it's a bit harsh to charge him with theft. Until they criminalize employers stealing wages from employees or underpaying them, this is an unfair result of our current system. Just make the dude pay back any money beyond his banked PTO and fire him. No need to make a criminal case out of this.

They hit him harder because he faked a fake disease.

[Core Shot]

Obama to host Covid-compliant 60th birthday party amid rising virus concerns, source says

(CNN)Former President Barack Obama will celebrate his 60th birthday this weekend with a party in Martha's Vineyard, with many Covid-19 safety protocols in place amid heightened concerns over the Delta variant, a source familiar with the planning told CNN.

The event this weekend, which will be held outside, will follow all US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention public health protocols, the source said. There will be testing for guests and a Covid safety coordinator on site.
Martha's Vineyard, in Dukes County, is currently designated by the CDC as an area of "moderate" Covid-19 community spread.

I always have a covid safety coordinator at my parties. Don’t you?

[Benny Profane]

Oh, here ya go, no whoop about that party, it's a "sophisticated " crowd that will show up, not those horrible cretins who won't vacinate. You know, like the barbarians at Sturgis. We're better than them.

Boy, in a few short seconds, the NYT drops it's pants and shows it's true colors. Reason number 643 why Trump was president.

https://twitter.com/CalebHowe/status...319134215?s=20

[subtle plague]

Of the plagues in that article only smallpox was ended by medical intervention. The others were ended by control of vermin and sewage and by quarantine. When it comes to persistence over millennia it's hard to top TB. Even today the medical world is terrified of multidrug resistant TB.

And I thought they were terrified of Germans.
Because those Germans are bad.

[Kinnikinnick]

Oh, here ya go, no whoop about that party, it's a "sophisticated " crowd that will show up, not those horrible cretins who won't vacinate. You know, like the barbarians at Sturgis. We're better than them.

Boy, in a few short seconds, the NYT drops it's pants and shows it's true colors. Reason number 643 why Trump was president.

https://twitter.com/CalebHowe/status...319134215?s=20

What?

“NYT” on a CNN clip?

So basically support for Trump just means that someone condescended, in the media or liberal elite, to you?


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[Benny Profane]

What?

[Rideski]

China locking down.
https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/20...ourism-withers

[skiballs]

COVID might turn out like gunpowder for the Chinese. They made fire crackers out of gunpowder.
Europeans made bombs.


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[fomofo]

4 teachers died of COVID within 24 hours in Broward County, Florida

Rather than issue mask mandates, DeSantis has rolled out a program to provide a monoclonal-antibody treatment from the company Regeneron through clinics — one of the treatments then-President Donald Trump was said to have received when he tested positive for COVID-19.

An ounce of prevention...

[KQ]

As if having shitty air wasn't enough.......

Smoke and soot from wildfires may be causing more Covid-19 cases and deaths, study finds

(CNN)As the coronavirus surges again in the United States, scientists have found another disaster is playing a key role in the number of people who contract severe Covid-19 cases and how many die: wildfires.

A new study published in the journal Science Advances found that increases in fine particulate matter from wildfire smoke in 2020 led to a surge in Covid-19 cases and deaths in California, Oregon and Washington.

"Fine particulate matter air pollution can be an additional vehicle for spreading the virus even faster," Francesca Dominici, co-author of the study and professor of biostatistics, population and data science at Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, told CNN. "Considering that we are seeing an increased risk of cases from the Delta [variant] and we already have the wildfires, that's going to be concerning."

Fine particulate matter, or PM 2.5, is among tiniest yet also the most dangerous pollutants. When inhaled, it travels deep into lung tissue where it can enter the bloodstream. PM2.5, which comes from other sources like fossil fuel plants, cars and agriculture, and is linked to a number of health complications: asthma, heart disease, chronic bronchitis, and other respiratory illnesses — all underlying conditions that make people vulnerable to severe outcomes from Covid-19.

[The SnowShow]

4 teachers died of COVID within 24 hours in Broward County, Florida

Rather than issue mask mandates, DeSantis has rolled out a program to provide a monoclonal-antibody treatment from the company Regeneron through clinics — one of the treatments then-President Donald Trump was said to have received when he tested positive for COVID-19.

An ounce of prevention...

DeSantis should be impeached for inept leadership and killing people.

[KQ]

DeSantis should be impeached for inept leadership and killing people.

Instead he'll be elected President for protecting peoples right to choose

[wooley12]

........... Until they criminalize employers stealing wages from employees or underpaying them, this is an unfair result of our current system.

Ummm. It is illegal to steal wages or pay less than agreed to. What country do you post from?

https://www.capitolhillseattle.com/2...r-gig-workers/

[jono]

What do the experts think about snorting baby shampoo?

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04347538

I got curious after trying to kick a stuffy sinus condition for two weeks (test was negative, but also a week in by that point, so...mild case of delta meets modeRNA seems possible).

Wasn't planning to try J&J, but WTH? Splat?

[TBS]

4 teachers died of COVID within 24 hours in Broward County, Florida

Rather than issue mask mandates, DeSantis has rolled out a program to provide a monoclonal-antibody treatment from the company Regeneron through clinics — one of the treatments then-President Donald Trump was said to have received when he tested positive for COVID-19.

An ounce of prevention...

So people won’t get a vaccine even though several hundred million have been jabbed with minimal side effects,

But they will, in the event they get really sick, get this monoclonal antibody treatment that has an EUA from FDA based on a study of 799 subjects, 1/3 of which got a placebo.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pres...tment-covid-19

Sounds smart

[LongShortLong]

Rather than issue mask mandates, DeSantis has rolled out a program to provide a monoclonal-antibody treatment from the company Regeneron through clinics — one of the treatments then-President Donald Trump was said to have received when he tested positive for COVID-19.

An ounce of prevention...

Why not both? Cheap, somewhat effective prevention, and as needed, followed by expensive, somewhat effective experimental antibodies.

Wait a minute. I'll be surprised if FL does enough test and trace to catch infection very early, when antibodies have a chance to work. This story needs more details, especially an outcome comparison for folks treated with antibodies.

[Benny Profane]

Try to read this without the Ahnold voice in your head.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...ccines/619746/

[Benny Profane]

So people won’t get a vaccine even though several hundred million have been jabbed with minimal side effects,

But they will, in the event they get really sick, get this monoclonal antibody treatment that has an EUA from FDA based on a study of 799 subjects, 1/3 of which got a placebo.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pres...tment-covid-19

Sounds smart

Yeah, but, the key here is that this treatment supposedly cured their God Hero, Trump.

[::: :::]

That is exactly the right tone

He schtooped the maid & his dad was an actual nazi, but he still understands the lay of the land here

If only the crowd who needed that pep talk read the Atlantic…

[Benny Profane]

Well, he does mention that Dad issue.

[Tri-Ungulate]

So people won’t get a vaccine even though several hundred million have been jabbed with minimal side effects,

But they will, in the event they get really sick, get this monoclonal antibody treatment that has an EUA from FDA based on a study of 799 subjects, 1/3 of which got a placebo.

Actually casirivimab and imdevimab doesn't really work all that well when the patient gets really sick. The monoclonals do provide some limited benefit in decreasing overall severity if given early on, when symptoms are milder. However, the benefit appears time- and course-dependent. Drumpf appears to have benefited from the monoclonals as they were given very early in his course, caught especially early as he was being tested regularly, being POTUS and all.

The FDA EUA is pretty explicit in this:

Casirivimab and imdevimab are not authorized for patients who are hospitalized due to COVID-19 or require oxygen therapy due to COVID-19. A benefit of casirivimab and imdevimab treatment has not been shown in patients hospitalized due to COVID-19.

And in fact, our system only provides it to outpatients, not those who are hospitalized, for this very reason.

And if you don't believe that SARS CoV2 is a "real" disease, or "no worse than the flu" it is more likely you'll pooh-pooh symptoms in order to show what a tough "own the libs" fella you are, and only get evaluated later in the course of the infection, when you're really sick and more likely to be admitted to an already overburdened hospital with inadequate ICU beds/staffing.