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03-25-2020, 05:32 PM #8426
Just to put a perhaps more optimistic spin on this Sweden is trying another method of dealing with COVID. Herd immunity by exposing younger populations while segregation of elderly https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...-herd-immunity
Measure is per this NYT piece
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/20/o...e=articleShare
It sounds like what the US is proposing to do but without the plan of segregating the elderly. If I may paraphrase the US plan is expose the vulnerable parts of the population to COVID and roll actuarial dice for a cost-benefit analysis of gains of getting the economy rolling again vs downside of death/injury to vulnerable people.
So perhaps the Swedes are also thinking like the US.
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03-25-2020, 05:37 PM #8427
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03-25-2020, 05:37 PM #8428
My whole family would prefer I was safely quarantined with them in France, staring out the window at all the snow they don't get to ski and driving each other crazy while eating huge amounts of cheese and cured meats...
I think I'd prefer that too. Beats going to work every day wondering when I get the axe or the covfefe.
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03-25-2020, 05:39 PM #8429"We had nice 3 days in your autonomous mountain realm last weekend." - Tom from Austria (the Rax ski guy)
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03-25-2020, 05:40 PM #8430
@leelau I’ll read the Swedish piece in a bit, going to get some sunshine for a minute.
But to finish the lost marbles thought. All this would be different if he were in his second term. (I mean I hope it doesn’t come to that) but then there’s no drama of trying to be re-elected at all costs. From there it’s even more one step removed if you look at a country like Russia. Putin is going to do what he thinks is best and none of this party fighting bullshit. That’s part of what I was getting at in the previous subject of how countries govern, in addition to the cohesion of the populace.
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03-25-2020, 05:41 PM #8431Registered User
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03-25-2020, 05:41 PM #8432
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03-25-2020, 05:42 PM #8433Registered User
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03-25-2020, 05:45 PM #8434
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03-25-2020, 05:47 PM #8435
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03-25-2020, 05:53 PM #8436
Trump's approval rating is as high as its ever been right now. People actually think he's done a GOOD JOB dealing with this pandemic. Good lord I cannot even comprehend how dumb people really are in this country....
https://news.gallup.com/poll/298313/...al-rating.aspx
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/25/polit...ing/index.html
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03-25-2020, 05:55 PM #8437
So, I learned something today. I was using the word "decimated", as in, they're fucked, they're decimated, and was corrected that it doesnt mean what I thought it meant. I was using it as, damn, they're really screwed, the market is going to half. It doesnt mean that. It has it's roots from ancient Rome, only ten percent destroyed. Here, this guy explains it.
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03-25-2020, 05:56 PM #8438
Nate Silver had an interesting take on this a few days ago in his podcast. Basically the bump the orange twat is getting is considerably smaller than the standard rally-around-the-flag bump observed with similar events that threatened the nation (regardless of the quality of the response). It's significantly smaller than the bump the Italian PM and president have received despite the fact that Italians are dropping like flies and aren't particularly thrilled with the government's response.
Edit: not disputing the fact that people in this country are some of the dumbest POS ever...
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03-25-2020, 06:00 PM #8439
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03-25-2020, 06:03 PM #8440
Jr was at 80+ after 911 as I recall. United We Stand
A few people feel the rain. Most people just get wet.
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03-25-2020, 06:05 PM #8441
WRT the flu vs COVID-19 death rate from the previous page: the CDC death rate for influenze is Symptomatic Illnesses / Deaths = ~.01%.
So comparing asymptomatic COVID-19 with symptomatic flu doesn't make sense when there haven't been any serosurveys or serial viral shedding studies for COVID-19. Maybe most of the COVID-19 cases are asymptomatic or maybe asymptomatic numbers are false positives because tests can also pick up people who have been in contact with an infected person.
Comparing apples to apples, which for now may well make more sense, according to the latest research people with COVID-19 symptoms in Wuhan China had a 1.4% death rate. That's 140 times the symptomatic death rate of the flu.
https://files.springernature.com/get...7ffaQiUg%3D%3D
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03-25-2020, 06:05 PM #8442
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03-25-2020, 06:09 PM #8443
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03-25-2020, 06:10 PM #8444
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03-25-2020, 06:11 PM #8445Banned
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Jeffrey Shaman of Columbia University. "..Based on a study of 375 cities in China... 86% of cases were undocumented...-asymptomatic or had only very mild symptoms". https://science.sciencemag.org/conte...cience.abb3221
So no not made-up just rounded Down at every possible scenario to present the Worst Case.
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03-25-2020, 06:12 PM #8446
You mean the senile one, who began the trend of deficits not mattering?
That one?Forum Cross Pollinator, gratuitously strident
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03-25-2020, 06:12 PM #8447“I tell you, we are here on Earth to fart around, and don't let anybody tell you different.”
― Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without a Country
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03-25-2020, 06:14 PM #8448
Re Trump's reelection--what matters is how things are going in Nov. Assuming we have an election in November. If the economy is great and deaths are flu-like numbers he will likely be reelected. If the economy is still in the total and millions die he won't be, assuming he is even alive.
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03-25-2020, 06:16 PM #8449
I mean, my kids would be better than this. Sure, the oldest is 4, but she can string together complete sentences, maintain a focused train of thought for more than two minutes, and doesn't make all her decisions based on grifting enough money to cover debt payments that she can't afford.
We are officially locked down in Summit County, Utah, by the way.
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03-25-2020, 06:20 PM #8450
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