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  1. #8051
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    I should have given Wooley all my money and let him buy masks.
    Part of the early discussion was about how transmissibility estimates are not set in stone. How an effective infection control intervention along with people themselves adopting risk reducing behavior can get this under control even in the absence of antiviral drugs or vaccines.

    Both the US and South Korea had their first diagnosed case within 24 hours back in January but SK managed to flatten the curve (03/24 9,000 cases 120 deaths). By Friday the US will reach 100,000 COVID-19 cases and approach 1000 deaths and our doubling rates and death rates are now the fastest for the world.

    We f'd this up. It's an embarrassment made worse because we used to be the best at this.

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    Prolly old news but a long read on Medium.

    What caught my eye is the graph in Chart 6, variation of different strains?
    Has the locals (Multiverse,Summit & All?) in know if the info (through Nexstrain?) stands closer scrutiny?
    Wondering if the possible mutation could also affect the lethality of the virus as well?

    [img]https://miro.medium.com/max/3200/0*9Ggoj59CoRvLNjzH[/img]

    Full text (from March 19th): https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coron...e-be9337092b56

    Edit: Hotlinking for the image does not work, copy url and paste it...

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  3. #8053
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    Chinese Rat Flu

    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    x2

    How's Art Shirk doing? He thought he had it but that's the last I can recall about him.
    Thanks for asking, ice. As Danno said, doing ok but fighting this thing still. Iím not totally convinced I have it, but mainly only because I donít seem to have any sort of fever (never checked but donít feel feverish). Sore throat subsided and came back. Super dehydrated and feels like a dry head and chest cold now for 1.5 weeks. Headache. Super manageable compared to others.

    Best wishes nutmeg. I must have missed it but did you actually get a test?


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    I've read a couple of notes on Vit D having an impact on not only infection, bit symptoms as well.
    Valid? Debunked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MultiVerse View Post
    Part of the early discussion was about how transmissibility estimates are not set in stone. How an effective infection control intervention along with people themselves adopting risk reducing behavior can get this under control even in the absence of antiviral drugs or vaccines.

    Both the US and South Korea had their first diagnosed case within 24 hours back in January but SK managed to flatten the curve (03/24 9,000 cases 120 deaths). By Friday the US will reach 100,000 COVID-19 cases and approach 1000 deaths. Our doubling rates and death rates are now the fastest for the world.

    It's a massive U.S. government failure.

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    If a bunch of burnt out skiers can get concerned, if Summit is on point from day 1, then what the fuck were the people paid doing? And yes, the President, but what about every one else in the chain of command? People paid six figures, with parking spaces at hospitals? County health commissions? Governors? Mayors, FEMA etc.

    Meanwhile Wooley is watching Asians buying up all the masks.

    Truly unbelievable. I wonít get in the way of anyone bashing Trump. But what happened to all those other assholes with name plates on their doors and pensions.


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  6. #8056
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    At least Fauci wasn’t eliminated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Shirk View Post
    Thanks for asking, ice. As Danno said, doing ok but fighting this thing still. Iím not totally convinced I have it, but mainly only because I donít seem to have any sort of fever (never checked but donít feel feverish). Sore throat subsided and came back. Super dehydrated and feels like a dry head and chest cold now for 1.5 weeks. Headache. Super manageable compared to others.

    Best wishes nutmeg. I must have missed it but did you actually get a test?


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    Yes, I have.
    Boyfriend felt ill first and we got tested at ER.
    Waited 6 days to hear the results and both came out positive.
    I felt ill a day after the test.

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    Listening to Fauci, we need to blow the bridges. People need a no travel ban in NYC. And maybe other cities.


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    Trump fired several of them. I posted about the American embedded in China watch bog on the previous page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nutmegchoi View Post
    Yes, I have.
    Boyfriend felt ill first and we got tested at ER.
    Waited 6 days to hear the results and both came out positive.
    I felt ill a day after the test.
    You guys are ok though, right?
    Just a mild cough?
    No longer stuck.

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nutmegchoi View Post
    Yes, I have.
    Boyfriend felt ill first and we got tested at ER.
    Waited 6 days to hear the results and both came out positive.
    I felt ill a day after the test.
    Well Iím glad you are on the radar and really hoping you are in the mend.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    You guys are ok though, right?
    Just a mild cough?
    No, we are going through with full blown symptoms.
    Pretty much everything but chest pain and trouble breathing.
    Been sick close to two weeks.
    Hoping things will turn around this weekend.

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    Wow. We just got a delivery from a local takeout spot and there was a roll of TP in the bag! FKNA yeah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Shirk View Post
    Well Iím glad you are on the radar and really hoping you are in the mend.


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    Thank you.
    You take care of yourself as well.
    Are you self quarantined?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nutmegchoi View Post
    No, we are going through with full blown symptoms.
    Pretty much everything but chest pain and trouble breathing.
    Been sick close to two weeks.
    Hoping things will turn around this weekend.
    Oh man, I wish there was something I could do. Lemme know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gravitylover View Post
    Oh man, I wish there was something I could do. Lemme know...
    You can give me that toilet paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nutmegchoi View Post
    You can give me that toilet paper.
    I lol'd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nutmegchoi View Post
    Some mags want to know if Iím still alive, so hereís a status report.

    Self quarantine day 11.
    COVID-19 day 10.

    Didnít sleep well last night and woke up with sweats.
    Temperature was slightly up to 99.7F, so took two Tylenols to bring down a degree.
    Started working at 8:30am, got tired so took a nap during lunch break around noon.
    Canít smell and donít have appetite but force to eat some soup and two slices of bread.
    Boyfriend lost 17lbs in two weeks and Iím 7lbs down.
    The toll on our bodies will take some weeks and months to recover.

    Will report back some days later.
    Glad to hear you guys are staying strong.

    Have talked to a couple people with it, so far it has been mild for all of them...luckily.

    Ran to the grocery store this afternoon. Good amount of TP and Paper towels available here. Still no clorox wipes, very little soap, and absolutely still no chicken or beef. Ground turkey, pork and bison is still available, along with all the breakfast sausage and bacon you could want. Pasta supplies are strong again.

    The store had limitations on TP, paper towels and meat. I am still not sure I get the hording of the chicken breast and beef. Chasing that trophy bull in NM last fall and passing on the satellite bulls is hurting right now.
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    Chinese Rat Flu

    Is the fucking subway still running in NYC?

    Edit. They are! Wtf morons.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Meathelmet View Post
    Wondering if the possible mutation could also affect the lethality of the virus as well?
    Mofro, Huckbucket, and all the other mags with expertise are better qualified to answer but in a nutshell a virus mutates due to natural selection and predicting evolution is hard. But as long as long our immune system can recognize enough of a mutated virus (maybe 50% similarity?) then we should develop herd immunity.

    The main thing is we want to stop the evolutionary process either through containment or with a vaccine. And, FWIW, tests reinfecting primates with COVID-19 indicate we do develop immunity.

    When it comes to lethality, the two main mutations we care about are virulence and transmissibility. Virulence is the amount of damage a virus does to its host. The reason why SARS-CoV-2 is spreading whereas SARS was stopped is SARS killed its host too quickly. So if anything, although anything could happen, the virus will evolve to be more transmissible and less virulent—but will likely remain roughly, in effect, as it is now at least in the short term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    Is the fucking subway still running in NYC?

    Edit. They are! Wtf morons.


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    didn't you get the memo, Trump wants everyone to go back to work...how they gonna get there yo!
    Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    Listening to Fauci, we need to blow the bridges. People need a no travel ban in NYC. And maybe other cities.

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    Mutation rates may not be a concern.

    https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...spond-to-a?amp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    Is the fucking subway still running in NYC?

    Edit. They are! Wtf morons.


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    Careful...don't want to criticize the decision makes in NY. You will get roasted here for dissing peoples hood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush View Post
    didn't you get the memo, Trump wants everyone to go back to work...how they gonna get there yo!
    What would the Wuhan city council say about that idea?

    Iíve got to listen to Cuomo beg for all our medical supplies, and they have not shut down a filthy subway yet?

    Complete morons, hall of fame morons.


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