Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

[twat]

Holy shit dude - did you just wake up from a coma? What should have been done has been widely reported. And discussed in here (we're at 11,000+ posts). Even Trump voters and apologists have criticised the response in here.

While Trump was holding rallies and golfing and not worrying about impeachment anymore and calling this a democrat hoax and dismantling the pandemic readiness plan/staff he did, in fact, stop planes from China (and one cruise ship) from arriving.

And yet - 430,000 people have entered the US from China since "the lockdown" - so even his claim that he accomplished that is a failure.

So the last 500+ pages i red about maricans shitting them self from dying..... what is not happening....
Now what.... misleadership.... nobody could have managed this shit... not here not there.... dont look to china... s korea.... italy or sweden

All failing... so the u.s.a.

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[Adolf Allerbush]

Do they work? or are they all day everyday fox watching old fucks?

I was texting with a friend who works (essential) with a lot of maga folks, and asked him if they still thought it was a hoax. His answer was basically "not the dead ones". The rest are taking this seriously.

No working at the moment. Just sitting idly at home for the MAGA folks I come across.

[bennymac]

So the last 500+ pages i red about maricans shitting them self from dying..... what is not happening....
Now what.... misleadership.... nobody could have managed this shit... not here not there.... dont look to china... s korea.... italy or sweden

All failing... so the u.s.a.

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Are you talking?

[old goat]

How about you assholes take it to polyass? The only discussion of Trump that belongs in this thread are as relates to his hnndling of the pandemic.

[Deebased]

And who goes bankrupt running a fucking money-printing biz like a casino?

Looks like anyone who runs a casino, are you seeing whats happening in Vegas these days?

[ncskier]

He's not saying Russians voted for him. Come the fuck on.

"However, it was a reality show, Russians and rejects who voted for him made it all possible."
Hence my comment, we should all stop and think about what we are saying.
I meant to say interference.
If we really believe in russian interference, why would anyone in the country be in favor of mail in voting and not having you show up in person with an ID.

[ncskier]

How about you assholes take it to polyass? The only discussion of Trump that belongs in this thread are as relates to his hnndling of the pandemic.

I'd like to think the entire response has been handled poorly.

[bennymac]

Looks like anyone who runs a casino, are you seeing whats happening in Vegas these days?

you really aren't comparing the two situations are you? C'mon - even you can do better than that

[Dantheman]

One thing we're going to have to get comfortable with is that if social distancing works we're going to have a bunch of idiots come out of the woodwork claiming that Trump was right that this was all a hoax and that there was nothing for concern. It's already happening here in Oregon. There have been reports that social distancing has reduced the number of infections by 70%, which is great if true. That's got the Trumpeters in my orbit saying how stupid this whole social distancing thing is, and what a waste it is...but I keep telling them that this only means that all of these efforts MIGHT be working. Fucking idiots.

When this has all finally passed there are going to be conspiracy theories that emerge that are going to make 9/11 Truthers and Chemtrail believers look entirely sane. And you know what? They're only going to be half wrong. Just like 9/11, there are some evil fucking people positively salivating at the thought of the shit they'll be able to pull off in the wake of this. What the COVID-19 equivalent of the Iraq War, the Patriot Act, extraordinary rendition, enhanced interrogation, et al. will be remains to be seen, but it's coming. Count on it.

[ncskier]

We have very different basis for these kinds of evaluations.

Personal success? Really?

Trump is one of the last people I would __ever__ credit or respect.

He was handed wealth illegally and has done nothing but be a lying second rate used car salesman and a traitor.

Being a dentist, raising happy kids, having a good time with friends and maybe even being honest are goals of which I'm proud.

Your assessment is correct, but the same could be said for many politicians including the kennedy's and bush family. The old saying of behind every great fortune is a great crime, is as old as America. Many of the so called rich people we hold in regard for some odd reason are total shit bags. Bill Gates is tempered now but in his youth he was a ball breaking manipulative little shit who trounced and stole technology. Same could be said of the Zuck. You don't rise to a high level of prominence in America without being a cunt.

[Danno]

The mere specter of mail in voting that Pelosi and AOC demand would be completely fraudulent if you could mail in ballots.

Uh, we've had mail in voting exclusively for a few years, and our voting has not been completely -- or even slightly -- fraudulent.

[Danno]

"However, it was a reality show, Russians and rejects who voted for him made it all possible."
Hence my comment, we should all stop and think about what we are saying.
I meant to say interference.
If we really believe in russian interference, why would anyone in the country be in favor of mail in voting and not having you show up in person with an ID.

First, he may not have punctuated properly but it is pretty obvious he is talking about russian interference and reject voters, not russian voters (as in "russians made it possible and reject voters made it possible").

And why is mail in voting more susceptible to russian interference? The Russian interference identified to date has been things like bots on social media, not mail in voter fraud. Why are you so scared of mail in ballots? It has been quite successful in a number of places, and is no more susceptible to fraud then a person walking in and voting, because you still have a paper record. Heck, I get notifications when my ballot has been mailed to me, and when they have received my ballot back.

[Buster Highmen]

We can't put anything outside the realm of possibility any longer.

Science evolves, hysteria doesn't.

[huckbucket]

So when Trump stands up there and demands voter ID is he going against his own self interest?
Sometimes we should all stop and think about what we are saying.

I know you know why "R's" including tRUMP want voter ID. If you're going to preface your post with the word "honestly" then you should at least pretend to mean it.

[Buster Highmen]

Your assessment is correct, You don't rise to a high level of prominence in America without being a cunt.

Yes. So you agree that gretch's assessment is not only inaccurate, but an insult to people who or principles that attempt to be honest, humble and strive for truth. Trump is a gutterball of a person.

I worked for Gates back in the day and find peoples adulation of him hysterical.

[bennymac]

How about you assholes take it to polyass? The only discussion of Trump that belongs in this thread are as relates to his hnndling of the pandemic.

good point for Gretchen and nordekette - rather than demanding we re-explain why Trump is a failure (both with pandemic response and more) why don't you head on over to Polyass - there are countless threads you can read explaining it all - no one owes you a recap of the last 4 years - and no one owes you the time it takes to take shots at your moving goalposts

[splat]

So the last 500+ pages i red about maricans shitting them self from dying..... what is not happening....
Now what.... misleadership.... nobody could have managed this shit... not here not there.... dont look to china... s korea.... italy or sweden

All failing... so the u.s.a.

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[Buster Highmen]

Logic would have been. Forbid all travel globaly. All people around the world go in quarantine for 30days.

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but...but...eurobbi!

[ncskier]

Yes. So you agree that gretch's assessment is not only inaccurate, but an insult to people who or principles that attempt to be honest, humble and strive for truth. Trump is a gutterball of a person.

I worked for Gates back in the day and find peoples adulation of him hysterical.

I agree he is a gutterball of a person, but I also contend most of the rich people we hold in high regard are also shit bags. Both prominent republicans and democrats. I am not sure why anyone pointing this out is a shill for trump or the republican party.
for example when the asshole from NC and Georgia Senators unloaded their stocks, it was painted as Republican issue, but Diane Feinstein did a similar thing and crickets. My point is that to be at that level requires a level of self serving and lack of reflection that in my opinion the average american doesnt possess. They are mostly all assholes. Clinton and their foundation was just as slimy and Trump and his kids.
They all get privileges most of us here won't sniff

[The AD]

First, he may not have punctuated properly but it is pretty obvious he is talking about russian interference and reject voters, not russian voters (as in "russians made it possible and reject voters made it possible").

And why is mail in voting more susceptible to russian interference? The Russian interference identified to date has been things like bots on social media, not mail in voter fraud.

or attempting to hack into voting machines. I've never heard of the Russians trying to interfere with mail-in voting. It's probably way too much effort for too little payoff.

[ncskier]

I know you know why "R's" including tRUMP want voter ID. If you're going to preface your post with the word "honestly" then you should at least pretend to mean it.

My point is don't pretend to be concerned about foreign election interference and the sanctity of elections in one breadth and then wholly shut down the mere idea of tightening voter controls as outright racist. It doesnt compute in my brain. Maybe you can rectify the two.
I learned long ago both parties run on the sizzle and not the steak.

Am i supposed to be scared of foreign election interference or not? I'm not buying that ads on facebook change my opinion one way or another. i don't even have a facebook account.
I would just a reasonable, measured adult conversation with politicians about what is and what is not a threat. If it's russians hacking, then give me a paper ballot and i'll show up.
screaming racist or screaming conspiracy theories is not productive. It's how we wound up here in the first place. No one gives a shit about you.

[Buster Highmen]

I agree he is a gutterball of a person, but I also contend most of the rich people we hold in high regard are also shit bags. Both prominent republicans and democrats. I am not sure why anyone pointing this out is a shill for trump or the republican party.

Because gretch was extolling Trump. Pay attention.

for example when the asshole from NC and Georgia Senators unloaded their stocks, it was painted as Republican issue, but Diane Feinstein did a similar thing and crickets. My point is that to be at that level requires a level of self serving and lack of reflection that in my opinion the average american doesnt possess. They are mostly all assholes. Clinton and their foundation was just as slimy and Trump and his kids.
They all get privileges most of us here won't sniff

Disagree on the Clintons versus the Trumps.

There are degrees of slime. I don't particularly like the Clintons, but the comparison to the Trump family is ridiculous.

But back on topic, Trump has fucked all this up and is constantly trying to spin it away.

[Dantheman]

My point is don't pretend to be concerned about foreign election interference and the sanctity of elections in one breadth and then wholly shut down the mere idea of tightening voter controls as outright racist. It doesnt compute in my brain. Maybe you can rectify the two.
I learned long ago both parties run on the sizzle and not the steak.

It's not that voter ID laws are inherently wrong, it's that they've been implemented in ways that were clearly meant to disenfranchise likely-Democratic voters. There are multiple Federal court rulings that came to this conclusion and mountains of literature written about this.

Now, FFS, take this wildly off-topic shit to PoliAss before this whole thread gets moved there.

[Buster Highmen]

I agree he is a gutterball of a person, but I also contend most of the rich people we hold in high regard are also shit bags. Both prominent republicans and democrats. I am not sure why anyone pointing this out is a shill for trump or the republican party.
for example when the asshole from NC and Georgia Senators unloaded their stocks, it was painted as Republican issue, but Diane Feinstein did a similar thing and crickets. My point is that to be at that level requires a level of self serving and lack of reflection that in my opinion the average american doesnt possess. They are mostly all assholes. Clinton and their foundation was just as slimy and Trump and his kids.
They all get privileges most of us here won't sniff

There's simply no comparison of the slimness of the Clintons (99) to the sliminess of Trump (99999999999999).

Maybe you hold the wealthy in high regard, most uneducated people do. Not to say you're uneducated, I don't know.

But the reason why is because gretch held up Trump as a more successful person than anyone here, which is more than a bit insulting and entirely false. Try to pay attention.

[twat]

The logic approach and reality is different.

So all fucking countries approach it the same way. Let it run as long as posible. Then pull the plug and tell everybody to shelter for three weeks. Ppe, social distancing, etc and wash your hands hysteria. There is no lockdown before. They watch hospital numbers and when it is big enough big red stop buttom.

Ofcourse contries like italy cant handle shit.... soooo.

And yes trump doesnt care about your mother



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