Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

[4matic]

Going out to Lake Chabot

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[Mazderati]

It would be really sweet if there were some goggles that made viruses visible in real time.

[Adolf Allerbush]

It's fine to say that the virus is from China, but calling it the Chinese flu or kung flu is different. It spreads racism, it makes it a problem of "the other" that we are being forced to address. And I suspect that people of Chinese descent here are seeing very real impacts from that. Yes, we're smart enough to not treat a Chinese-American poorly because of the "Chinese flu", but do you think that's the case everywhere.

I hear you and agree.

[huckbucket]

Getting real ...

[mtnjam]

So can someone please explain to me why air travel is still OK if the whole world is freaking out about this? Do people not see the irony of self quarantine while their bosses, CEO's, neighbors on business, vacationers fly in a metal tube with recirculating air landing in different cities?

[zion zig zag]

True, but Cascadia subduction zone EQ is coming for us and it's gonna be a doozie.

Oof, yeah hopefully the big one stays away for a looong time.

[muted]

oh, cute, it's you again to shit on me.

No, just saying if you guys disagree, let's move on. I get everyone is on edge, sorry man.

[KQ]

So can someone please explain to me why air travel is still OK if the whole world is freaking out about this? Do people not see the irony of self quarantine while their bosses, CEO's, neighbors on business, vacationers fly in a metal tube with recirculating air landing in different cities?

Everyday they are cutting back more soon there will probably be no flights. I think as long as people are willing to fly the airlines are going to take them to their destination.

[BmillsSkier]

Everyday they are cutting back more soon there will probably be no flights. I think as long as people are willing to fly the airlines are going to take them to their destination.

Delta just parked 600 jets.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN215351

[The AD]

So can someone please explain to me why air travel is still OK if the whole world is freaking out about this? Do people not see the irony of self quarantine while their bosses, CEO's, neighbors on business, vacationers fly in a metal tube with recirculating air landing in different cities?

Airplanes are better than many other confined spaces because the air is filtered and completely recycled something like every ten minutes. That's much better than most public buildings.

I still think people should be reducing their travel to only essential use, but people still need to get around. There are still many people who are in locations that are not their homes and need to return, for example.

[KQ]

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[topwater]

Exactly. Fuck China. There should be a negative regional economic impact due to these viruses originating there.

I agree with the fuck China sentiment but we should be careful sitting in glass houses throwing rocks. Our animal agriculture industry is only slightly less bad than China's. Our only saving grace is that we don't mix animals, but our reliance on antibiotics (70-80% of antibiotic use in the USA is for farmed animals) will come back to bite the world in the ass eventually. The wet markets are disgusting, but I bet none of us would be any less disgusted spending time in an industrial chicken farm or pig farm close to where we live.

[AK47bp]

True, but Cascadia subduction zone EQ is coming for us and it's gonna be a doozie.

Now would be the best time for the big one.

Everyone home, not in congested high rises or driving over old bridges, supplies stocked.


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[mcski]

Has any charted the growth of this thread vs the spread of covid19 ?

[seano732]

You too brother!

And the CDC just sent this to our EMS Chief......Check it and share.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...egy/index.html

[rideit]

Our tenants daughter just flew to Cancun yesterday. (10 YO). I am kinda pissed that they went ahead with their trip (14 people), the opportunities for transmission in such a large, traveling group are enormous. And she will be in the basement 24/7 when (if?) she gets back...but I can’t tell her to go somewhere else, really.

[Mr. Mike]

Fair point. For consideration purposes I'll rephrase. I have a trip booked to a quiet beach in Summit County where I won't interact with many people, and will travel pretty much between the house and the beach. WWMD?

Or... I'll be on a quiet beach in 80+ weather and limited cell service fucking off from all this. I'd go to HHI but I plan on being there all summer and it still fucking cold there. Thoughts?

Why would Hilton Head be any more or less COVIDed than South Walton? Anyway, the only factor that would register with me on going to South Walton would be slight concern with less hospital beds than home.

[riser4]

I agree with the fuck China sentiment but we should be careful sitting in glass houses throwing rocks. Our animal agriculture industry is only slightly less bad than China's. Our only saving grace is that we don't mix animals, but our reliance on antibiotics (70-80% of antibiotic use in the USA is for farmed animals) will come back to bite the world in the ass eventually. The wet markets are disgusting, but I bet none of us would be any less disgusted spending time in an industrial chicken farm or pig farm close to where we live.

This. Especially the glass houses part.

[BmillsSkier]

Why would Hilton Head be any more or less COVIDed than South Walton? Anyway, the only factor that would register with me on going to South Walton would be slight concern with less hospital beds than home.

It wouldn’t be as far as I can tell. It would just be colder than 30A.

That’s a good point about infrastructure, hadn’t thought about that. And those people will have enough on their hands anyway.

[huckbucket]

It wouldn’t be as far as I can tell. It would just be colder than 30A.

That’s a good point about infrastructure, hadn’t thought about that. And those people will have enough on their hands anyway.

My pops played golf in 80deg sunshine in HHI yesterday.

[riser4]

What's 30A?

[BmillsSkier]

My pops played golf in 80deg sunshine in HHI yesterday.

As much as I’d love to play some golf I’m not sure how that’s go over in 2.5 weeks. Clubs and pub-links here have already shut down but I’m guessing that’s more for the clubhouse aspect rather than being on the course 4 at a time.

[skaredshtles]

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That’s a good point about infrastructure, hadn’t thought about that. And those people will have enough on their hands anyway.

Yup - that's why Moab closed. They are anticipating the shitshow. I'd suggest canceling your trip just for that at this point...

[Wrecked]

As much as I’d love to play some golf I’m not sure how that’s go over in 2.5 weeks. Clubs and pub-links here have already shut down but I’m guessing that’s more for the clubhouse aspect rather than being on the course 4 at a time.

Opening our club for golf tomorrow in Michigan. I went today and stocked beer and everything else they need when only a couple people were there... I’m hoping for full on quarantine before they run out of beer

[BmillsSkier]

What's 30A?

It’s a string of small towns along a stretch of beach in South Walton County, FL. The connecting road is state highway 30a but that’s just what people call the area.

https://30a.com/mobile