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03-25-2020, 09:10 PM #8501
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03-25-2020, 09:10 PM #8502
Good News: 130M more Plaquenil doses! Bad news: Nevada Governor bans its use!
First, an important note: chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil) are not the same drug! Chloroquine is a malaria preventative and treatment, Plaquenil is used as a second-line immunomodulator for lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, and some other autoimmune diseases. (And neither one is the same as fish tank cleaner labeled "NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION.")
The SARS research and early Chinese trial was doen on chloroquine. The Italian trial, and the New York doctor's protocol that everyone is talking about, uses Plaquenil. In vitro (that means "in a lab vessel, not in people") Plaquenil is stronger against coronavirus. It also has fewer side effects, and a higher LD-50 relative to dosage. I talked about this in more detail here.
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Now, some good news!
Novartis commits to donate up to 130 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to support the global COVID-19 pandemic response
https://www.novartis.com/news/media-...demic-response
tl;dr Novartis has 50 million doses of Plaquenil in stock. They will make 80 million more by the end of May. They will donate all 130 million doses to the worldwide anti-Covid-19 effort.
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Of course, the governor of Nevada is a Democrat, which means NO LIFESAVING MEDICINE FOR YOU! YOU WILL DIE TO OWN #ORANGEMAN
Full text of proclamation here:
https://nvhealthresponse.nv.gov/wp-c...acy-drugs_.pdf
and also https://twitter.com/GovSisolak/statu...620321280?s=20
"The regulation prohibits the prescribing and dispensing of chloroquine and hydroxycholoroquine for a COVID-19 diagnosis, requires an ICD-10 code on prescriptions for the drugs, and limits the prescription amount to the 30-day supply for the drugs."
Dying of Covid-19? No lifesaving medicine for you, under any circumstances! See any exceptions? No, because there aren't any.
(By the way, this is also illegal, according to the Supreme Court. Massachusetts tried it in 2014.)
https://docs.justia.com/cases/federa...1689/159783/26
Of course, if you read the actual request from the NV State Pharmacy board, they didn't ask for a full ban at all. They asked for it to be only prescribed to hospital inpatients for Covid-19 cases because they're worried about supply.
https://nvhealthresponse.nv.gov/wp-c...regulation.pdf
"The provisions of this emergency regulation do not apply to a chart order for an inpatient in and institutional setting..."
To forestall the obvious, this is NOT the emergency order itself - it's the REQUEST from the Pharmacy Board for one. It's also arguably stupid - people who could easily recover at home, with the aid of medication, will be forced into inpatient care, taking up hospital beds and costing them thousands of dollars in order to get $10 worth of medication. And the consequences of the worst case - a few RA patients missing a week or two of meds and possibly dealing with more pain, versus people potentially dying of Covid-19 or leaving them with compromised lung function for life - seem out of whack here. But it's at least a theoretically defensible position to take.
After being dragged by everyone on the Internet with a working brain, Governor Sisolak woke up the next morning and pretended that's what he meant all along. He even quotes the Pharmacy Board request letter - as if his own emergency proclamation from the night before didn't say exactly the opposite!
Congratulations, Nevada! If you get Covid-19 and want access to Plaquenil, better stock up on fish tank cleaner, because it's the only way you'll get any for under $2500!
(Disclaimer: I AM JOKING. DO NOT INGEST FISH TANK CLEANER. IT WILL NOT CURE CORONAVIRUS AND YOU WILL LIKELY DIE. Drive to California or Utah and get medication there, prescribed by a medical professional.)
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ATTN: Medical professionals! QTc cutoffs for hydroxychloroquine, via UW Covid team
Before You Panic! Testing vs. absolute # of cases vs. mortality
Yes, calling it "Wuhan coronavirus" and blaming China for its spread is justified
PSA: Want to help? Have and use a thermometer regularly
That's a funny thing for a "Trumptard" to say.Last edited by Spats; 03-25-2020 at 10:07 PM. Reason: forgot to add link "more detail here", added!
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03-25-2020, 09:13 PM #8503
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03-25-2020, 09:14 PM #8504Registered User
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03-25-2020, 09:19 PM #8505Banned
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03-25-2020, 09:25 PM #8506
A new study indicates Hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for coronavirus is no more effective than conventional care. Hopefully we see better results with more research, but it’s disappointing.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9426366.html
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03-25-2020, 09:25 PM #8507
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03-25-2020, 09:38 PM #8508Registered User
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03-25-2020, 09:41 PM #8509
Interesting guy on the bbc. Says we have wipe it out in the third world or it will just circle back to us.
I hope everyone did their traveling.
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03-25-2020, 09:44 PM #8510
I think it's a strategy. President Trump is branding himself as the open things back up miracle cure guy not the take responsibility for the failed response guy. That's for the governors and public health offcials, they're the ones he wants us to blame.
It doesn't specifically matter if Hydroxychloroquine works, just that he's associated himself with a medical breakthrough. Down the road the details won't mater and it doesn't matter if a breakthrough comes from a lab overseas or here in America he's the guy who "told you so."
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03-25-2020, 09:48 PM #8511Registered User
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03-25-2020, 09:54 PM #8512powdork.com - new and improved, with 20% more dork.
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03-25-2020, 09:54 PM #8513
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03-25-2020, 10:02 PM #8514
I think the point is it can always come back as long and it's active somewhere around the globe.
If you think about it this is really a very black and white issue. In lieu of some kind of effective treatment or vaccine the only way to prevent the spread of the virus is to physically separate people. As they say, it ain't rocket science.
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03-25-2020, 10:05 PM #8515glocal
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After reading that^^^ NYT mag account of a woman tending to her infected husband, I have to ask a question that has been gnawing at me for a few days. I keep reading that people should take NSAIDS to keep their temperature down. Is there any chance a 103-degree fever would burn the virus off faster? I ask because I've burned through some wicked shit almost hitting the dead zone on some wickedly high temps. But it seemed to expedite my victory over whatever the fuck I had. I haven't heard any anecdotal evidence that it helps in the many accounts I've read from both ends of the thermometer.
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03-25-2020, 10:05 PM #8516
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03-25-2020, 10:06 PM #8517
It's Benny!
Forum Cross Pollinator, gratuitously strident
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03-25-2020, 10:17 PM #8518
Long in tooth and soul
Longing for another win
Lurch into the fray
Weapon out and belly in
Warrior struggling
To remain consequential
Bellow aloud
Bold and proud
Of where I've been
But here I am
Beating chest and drums
Beating tired bones again
Age-old battle, mine
Weapon out and belly in
Tales told of battles won
Of things we've done
Caligula would grin
Beating tired bones
Tripping through remember when
Once invincible
Now the armor's wearing thin
Heavy shield down
Warrior struggling
To remain relevant
Warrior struggling
To remain consequential
Cry aloud
Bold and proud
Of where I've been
But here I am
Where I end
Warrior struggling
To remain relevant
Warrior struggling
To remain consequential
Tears in my eyes
Chasing Ponce de Leon's phantom
So filled with hope
I can…
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03-25-2020, 10:20 PM #8519Registered User
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/g7-...rump-1.5510329
Pompeo is insisting that Covid-19 be refered to as the wuhan virusLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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03-25-2020, 10:23 PM #8520glocal
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03-25-2020, 10:27 PM #8521powdork.com - new and improved, with 20% more dork.
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03-25-2020, 10:29 PM #8522
Like you, I'm in the let it ride camp but that might not be a good idea with COVID-19. FWIW, Aspirin might be safer than NSAIDs but at this point it's all uncharted territory and from what I've read medical opinion is split.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4703655/
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03-25-2020, 10:33 PM #8523Registered User
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03-25-2020, 10:36 PM #8524
Free fall through our midnight
This epilogue of our own fable
Heedless in our slumber
Floating nescient we
Free fall through this boundlessness
This madness
Of our own making
Falling isn't flying
Floating isn't infinite
Come, our end, suddenly
All hail our lethargy
Concede suddenly
To the quickened dissolution
Pray we mitigate the ruin
Calling all to arms and order
Drifting through this boundlessness
This madness of our own making
Sound our dire reveille
Rouse all from our apathy
Lest we
Cease to be
Stir us from our
Wanton slumber
Mitigate our ruin
Call us all to arms and order
Sound the dread alarm
Through our primal…
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03-25-2020, 10:41 PM #8525
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