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03-21-2020, 07:49 PM #7201
Sorry mang I'm slacking
Fire/EMS update, EC edition
~525 confirmed in MA. We are responding to at least a couple "suspected" cases per day at this point. I'm a little bit concerned that with all the media coverage and hysteria we are getting elderly patients who are more psychosomatic than actually stricken with Covid-19, but what can you do? Our PPE stocks are dwindling, but holding up (with the exception of N95 masks). We are wearing gloves, gowns, surgical masks, and eye protection on every suspected Covid-19 call, all of which are disposed of after the run. Additionally, we're trying to limit the exposure of our firefighter/medics by reducing the amount of responders who go into residences as well as have patient contact. If possible, we're using ONE person (the medic who will be riding in the back with the patient) go into the residence, put a surgical mask on the patient, and escort them outside to the ambulance.
We also do not have a positive case among our members, but have yet to implement testing before entering any of our stations. I like that idea - but who is responsible for doing the testing, and how is it being done? Are the outgoing firefighters testing the incoming shift? Obviously, our number one concern is the same as it is for anyone on the front lines of this thing - nobody wants to bring a potentially deadly disease home to their family, which is definitely increasing the stress level of an already stressful job. I'm also shocked at the amount of people still out and about, Whole foods and Market Basket both looked like a Sunday morning, packed with shoppers. No social distancing whatsoever. Elderly people everywhere, despite the fact that most supermarkets in this area are now having special times when they're only open to elderly and "at risk" people.
We're also hearing that there will be some sort of stay-at-home order in the coming week or two. I'd say you can bet on that happening, we probably should've done it already....
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03-21-2020, 07:57 PM #7202
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03-21-2020, 08:00 PM #7203
^^^ it will definitely get used, that's for sure. Or give it to your local check out person.
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03-21-2020, 08:07 PM #7204
The gf wants to flirt with the firefighters anyway. Just her excuse to go there. Maybe I’ll get lucky and they keep her too.
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03-21-2020, 08:25 PM #7205
Chinese Rat Flu
https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/...ine-tablets-to
“In response, Novartis has pledged a global donation of up to 130 million hydroxychloroquine tablets, pending regulatory approvals for COVID-19. Mylan is ramping up production at its West Virginia Facility with enough supplies to make 50 million tablets. Teva is donating 16 million tablets to hospitals around the U.S.”
If Mylan is “ramping up production”, I’d think they’re fairly confident of its use in the fight?
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03-21-2020, 08:41 PM #7206
The better half runs the clinical side of an eye specialty. One of the physicians turned symptomatic yesterday and was tested today. Results expected mid week. We're not quite 40 and she is healthy as a horse but I've had a dry cough since the beginning of February I can't shake. Saw my own doctor and best guess is some kind of bronchitis. Same thing with the cough happened two years go. Opposite of stoked right now.
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03-21-2020, 08:45 PM #7207
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03-21-2020, 08:47 PM #7208
POTD
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03-21-2020, 08:47 PM #7209
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03-21-2020, 08:51 PM #7210
Absolutely. Mylan is the corp. that jacked prices on EpiPens to the moon. They wouldn't be ramping up production of hydroxychloroquine unless they're sure there will be massive worldwide demand.
You probably already know people who take it. It's an old drug, commonly prescribed for lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, and certain other autoimmune syndromes as a second-line treatment after prednisone. They probably call it "Plaquenil," which is a trade name, but it's the same drug.
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03-21-2020, 08:56 PM #7211
Ok thanks. Would you have a link by chance?
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03-21-2020, 08:59 PM #7212
You do realize that this hysteria about hydroxychloroquine is based on one small, very flawed study, right?
It's just as likely that the subjects who recovered would have done so on a regimen of weed and chocolate milk.
Maybe these companies are ramping up production because feds are willing to buy at some absurd price?
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03-21-2020, 09:00 PM #7213
I googled "Stanford coronavirus rumor" - many hits -
https://www.lamag.com/article/corona...hoax-stanford/
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03-21-2020, 09:03 PM #7214
Stop throwing your N95s away.
Now
Stop
FULL STOP
Or you won't have any. If it was me I'd be collecting them in a name and dated lab bag, decon bag exterior.
Reuse the mask after 2-3 days. Or sooner if you have no choices. Virus viability drops after a day on porous surface like cardboard (no sure how long on a mask though).Originally Posted by blurred
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03-21-2020, 09:04 PM #7215
The stuff is so cheap to make I think they can ramp up production without much downside if it doesn't get used, vs huge upside if it works and they can jack up the price.
The hcq +azithromycin study looked promising enough to me to justify studying it properly. Not promising enough to go gaga yet but not pooh pooh either. (Those are technical terms; the FDA tests the drugs on babies.) The HCQ didn't come out of nowhere. It's been known to have activity against coronaviruses.
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03-21-2020, 09:13 PM #7216
Same. 30-40 kids playing a variety of sports at the middle school athletic fields. Full blown baseball game being played at the baseball field. 3 on 3 game of hoops being played at the park nearby as well. I guess their parents have no control, are being lied to, or don't give a shit
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03-21-2020, 09:18 PM #7217
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03-21-2020, 09:23 PM #7218
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03-21-2020, 09:24 PM #7219
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03-21-2020, 09:27 PM #7220
Also, as this gets worse, I just want to say - if you're not at a high risk for severe illness - i.e. COPD, asthma, CHF, elderly, etc - and you get sick - you have a fever and a cough - STAY HOME. Yes assume you probably have covid 19. Is calling 911 or driving to the ED going to change anything for you? No. There is no approved treatment for it. Will it change anything for anyone else? YES you will waste resources and be unnecessarily exposing a LOT of UNINFECTED people - people vital to the heath care system - to the disease.
If you're not sick - stay home. If you ARE sick, STAY HOME!!!! Its not hard. Stay the fuck home.
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03-21-2020, 09:31 PM #7221Banned
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03-21-2020, 09:34 PM #7222
https://med.umn.edu/news-events/covi...sity-minnesota
It's a trial for people who have been closely exposed to active patients--household contacts or medical care providers. Not treating CV patients. The idea is to see if the subjects later get sick. They are recruiting patients all over the country so I think they could probably get their subjects very quickly and have results within possibly weeks. The article doesn't say how long they will be treated. The problem I see is that you have to keep the subject away from any other symptomatic or asymptomatic infected people. Suppose they got sick a week after the trial ended. Did the drug fail or were they infected by someone else after the drug was stopped. In the case of a health care worker it might mean taking them off the line. The problem is obvious; I assume they are thinking about that. I'm too lazy to search for the trial protocol.
For that matter, even if the drug works using it would seem problematic for the same reason; as this thing takes off people are going to be repeatedly exposed. Will they keep everyone on it all the time. 300M of us less children and people who have already recoverd all on the drug? Maybe time to buy Novartis stock. (If you're ever looking to do some lucrative insider trading it's hard to do better than to get onto the inside track of a clinical trial.)
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03-21-2020, 09:36 PM #7223
As I've repeatedly pointed out, we've known since 2004 that chloroquine has strong anti-coronaviral activity. The Chinese and Italian doctors who performed the trials on Covid-19/Wuhan patients (there are at least two of them) didn't just take drugs off the shelf at random. They tested drugs with existing scientific studies suggesting that they might be effective.
Virol J. 2005 Aug 22;2:69.
Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread.
Vincent MJ1, Bergeron E, Benjannet S, Erickson BR, Rollin PE, Ksiazek TG, Seidah NG, Nichol ST.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16115318
Biochem Biophys Res Commun. 2004 Oct 8;323(1):264-8.
In vitro inhibition of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus by chloroquine.
Keyaerts E1, Vijgen L, Maes P, Neyts J, Van Ranst M.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15351731
The media continually repeats propaganda triggers like "small, flawed study" because THEY WANT YOU TO DIE to own #orangeman.
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03-21-2020, 09:40 PM #7224
Umm...most people would prefer that ‘Orangeman’ just dies.
Don’t be hyperbolic.Forum Cross Pollinator, gratuitously strident
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03-21-2020, 09:48 PM #7225
This cannot be emphasized enough. As an EMT we see too many people call 911 when that should just stay home and recover. Every call to 911 exposes responders and burns PPE and if someone does get in the ambulance keeps it out of service for longer due to decontamination.
Be safe and please use your head before calling 911.
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