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  1. #9951
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    Quote Originally Posted by skifishbum View Post
    essentially your trying to tell me you havent seen any "old" people "currently smoking" because they "all died"
    essentially im thinking you are not looking really hard or even at all or don't understand the definition of "all"
    I never said there aren't "any" old people smoking, but I'll betcha it's a factor and probably explains the difference in these stats for current and former smokers. Most lifelong, heavy smokers don't make it to 80+ where COVID-19 is going to put most people in the hospital.

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    I can tell you for a fact that a shitton of people got brought infection to the Burton open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK47bp View Post
    Domestic abuse is probably up and may end up with increase in the divorce rate. More broken homes, more daughters with daddy issues = increase in the stripper population over the next decade?


    Any studies or charts or colorful graphs?





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    So wait, is smoking bad? Or good

    I'm confused

    I bet that hipster that can't pay his rent smokes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkiBall View Post
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    That does actually sum up the rise of dv under quarantine. Very true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    So, they're learning from the dead. Seems that there is a big correlation with pre existing conditions, like diabetes and heart problems, who are buddies down at the end of the bar. So one wonders how the South will prevail, home to the most obese in America.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6913e2.htm
    are you just figuring this out???
    a wise man posted on 3/16
    Ok kids, here's a lesson, and maybe some good can come from this tragedy unfolding. It is not the old that are predominantly dying or spending months in the hospital from this, it is those with underlying conditions which become much more prevalent with age, thus the correlation. Many of these underlying conditions are related to our personal choices. The pandemic is overwhelmingly targeting those with diabetes, high blood pressure, cardiovascular disease, and respiratory illnesses. The vast majority of these underlying conditions would not occur if folks took care of themselves better throughout their lives.
    It's not rocket surgery either.
    Get exercise daily
    Don't smoke (or STOP SMOKING NOW)
    Eat well
    Limit your sugar intake
    Limit your alcohol intake
    Go outside

    [/boomer]
    i think the 'vast majority' part was prolly cause the wise man was a bit drunk at the time
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkiBall View Post
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    Good god man


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    Quote Originally Posted by AK47bp View Post
    Good god man


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    I know, right?
    Downright ghastly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Core Shot View Post
    None of the above wins In non hospitalization. Yesssssss

    But current smoker is 5% icu

    Former smoker 20% icu?

    Holee fuk.

    Makes me want to smoke a cigarette nine miles long
    Selection bias on full display. You gotta be sick enough to be tested or you miss the whole thing. And how long ago did you quit? Long enough to check "none of the above?" That means...very little. Maybe nothing.

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    Out of curiosity .. is a law limiting group size to 5 or 10, constitutional? Even if they're 6' apart .. Right of the people to peaceably assemble and all that?
    Not that I condone anyone assembling right now, but when some 'group' gets nailed by the cops and it turns into a fight and all other matters of inevitability .. then what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiddleOfNight View Post
    Out of curiosity .. is a law limiting group size to 5 or 10, constitutional? Even if they're 6' apart .. Right of the people to peaceably assemble and all that?
    Not that I condone anyone assembling right now, but when some 'group' gets nailed by the cops and it turns into a fight and all other matters of inevitability .. then what?
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MakersTeleMark View Post
    Yes.
    that's too bad. Walter Sobchak told me the supreme court has roundly rejected prior restraints

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    Quote Originally Posted by altasnob View Post
    What countries are still trying to take it on the chin? Sweden[...]? I don't think anyone will be envious of those countries 12-24 months down the road.
    Indeed. In Sweden there is a interesting situation that the local Department of Health has actually "legislative powers" to impose the measures while the government has not. It is even a bit uncertain what powers government would have if they would declare full state of emergency, if they could preside over DoH or not.
    The other thing with Sweden compared to its neighbours (Den,Nor,Fin) is that is nowadays extremely ill prepared for contingencies, be it army or disasters.
    After cold war (during which they were proper preppers) they run down every area and is now playing catch up. Norway and Denmark never did that to Swedens extent, let alone Finland which is called North Korea of Scandinavia for a reason.
    So, currently there is a very interesting lab experiment going on how the said countries will ride out and what the ramifications will be in the long run.
    Swedes have always been the Gladstone Gander in everything they do, so in some weird way they will probably ride this out unscathed and rule again the waves of the Baltic Sea.
    Or not.


    Quote Originally Posted by Deebased View Post
    Normalize for population and its largely the same graph.
    No its not, not even close. Normalising for population Swedens death rate is still 10 times higher than Finlands.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deebased View Post
    The difference is in 3 months Sweden will be back to business and usual and the other Nordic countries will be fighting the 2nd, 3rd, 4th wave.
    See above.



    Quote Originally Posted by MultiVerse View Post
    Sweden has a number of things going for it that may not apply elsewhere. Even before COVID-19 more than two thirds of Swedes worked from home at least some of the time, more than half of households are one resident only, and there's high trust in government so as the situation changes there's a reasonable expectation of people going along with a shift in policy. There's also generous sick leave and a culture of taking time off even when slightly ill.

    And they are being asked to work from home whenever possible, to social distance, to restrict travel, and to stay home regardless when sick with the main difference being those things are voluntary which means in Sweden, those things are happening.
    Underlined things that I don't totally agree with.
    Sweden does not differ that much from other European countries with remote working etc. It is a (very) urbanised country with huge portion of workforce in office environment, which, to date, has not yet switched to remote working like its neighbouring countries, let alone imposed lockdowns and restrictions.
    Sweden is like the libertarian version of "Scandinavian Socialism" and their prevailing attitude is distinctively different from Fin/Nor/Den and this probable be due to that they don't have similar collective memory/trauma of WW2.


    That said, it is "fascinating" to see how Swedens approach pans out. I am quite certain that the approach will be researched extremely closely in the future due to the similarities of the neighbouring countries and the lessons learned will be implemented in the future by other countries.

    The floggings will continue until morale improves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiddleOfNight View Post
    that's too bad. Walter Sobchak told me the supreme court has roundly rejected prior restraints
    Life is not a movie. There are rules.

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    Seems to be more of a reality TV show these days, mixed up with a zombie movie.

    Let's do some livin'
    After, we die

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    Quote Originally Posted by powdork View Post
    are you just figuring this out???
    a wise man posted on 3/16


    i think the 'vast majority' part was prolly cause the wise man was a bit drunk at the time
    But, now we have science, not speculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bodywhomper View Post
    my point is that the models are changing with time, they seem to be parametrized/trained with observations. for instance, since sunday, FL's peaks have moved to sooner dates and the severities have increased. California's have done the opposite.
    Testing is such garbage in the US there isn't a good data set to go off. I'm now up to 5 people I know in 3 states that almost assuredly have it/had it and couldn't get tested. Even deaths are unreliable at this point given lack of testing and pressures to downplay it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    You know, even though this happened about 2/7, ya wonder if it was a source for high Colorado's problems.

    What exactly is this picture of? Other than a crowd large enough to make me decide to go somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riser3 View Post
    What exactly is this picture of? Other than a crowd large enough to make me decide to go somewhere else.
    Someone in a red coat smoking a cig contemplating their decision to hit the back bowls.

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    In case anyone missed the reference to smoking a cigarette nine miles long

    “Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously.”
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    “Anyone you see out is trying to take a walk or buy heroin.” Dave Chappelle

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    Quote Originally Posted by riser3 View Post
    What exactly is this picture of?
    Benny's GF giving free bj's to anyone with an Epic Pass. She's in the shack by the lift.
    "timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    Benny's GF giving free bj's to anyone with an Epic Pass. She's in the shack by the lift.
    Benny made the right call putting her to work like that. He saved a pretty penny not having to buy her lunch on the hill that day.
    I remember a bottomless freedom...

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