Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

**up an down** · 03-29-2020, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by rideit

Not to be chicken little, but is anyone else concerned about food shortages as factories, manufacturers, farms, bakeries, meat processing plants, and all other parts of the supply chain get disrupted?
Someone has to make everything in the stores...

Still being made because that stuff is classified as necessary....so a factory could be downsized because some products are deemed unnecessary..But still remain open for needed items to be made...same with food factories...maybe no candy in stores eventually..But still the meat and potatoes and veggies and breads.. No plans in this area to skip spring planting

**Lvovsky** · 03-29-2020, 10:39 AM

Manhattan Beach surfer issued $1,000 citation for violating beach closure order, disrespecting lifeguard.

https://easyreadernews.com/manhattan...ing-lifeguard/

**4matic** · 03-29-2020, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by Lvovsky

Manhattan Beach surfer issued $1,000 citation for violating beach closure order, disrespecting lifeguard.

https://easyreadernews.com/manhattan...ing-lifeguard/

Maybe a night in virus rich jail would shut him up.

**4matic** · 03-29-2020, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by rideit

Not to be chicken little, but is anyone else concerned about food shortages as factories, manufacturers, farms, bakeries, meat processing plants, and all other parts of the supply chain get disrupted?
Someone has to make everything in the stores...

You’ve read it here. All those people lining up at the stores to stock up are the problem. Food magically appears every night. No need for concern.

**natty dread** · 03-29-2020, 10:56 AM

Seemed like there was a light at the end of tunnel in spain and italy but that turned out to be a train.
NYC paramedics are getting crushed, they set call volume records 4 times in the last week, one day had 7,000 calls, more than 9/11.

**54-46** · 03-29-2020, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by Deebased

Fucking Obama..

More seriously how can the govt not write effective contracts.

What would you have done to enforce the contract? (BTW, did you read the actual contract and settlement?)

And, do you think POTUS is supposed to micromanage that kind of shit?

If so, apply the same logic to Mr. I Don’t Take Responsibility currently in office and see where that takes you...

**54-46** · 03-29-2020, 11:14 AM

I wonder how SEC Football fans are going to get their fill come fall?

Cautionary tale: https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate.c...oronavirus.amp

**Ski220** · 03-29-2020, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Lvovsky

Manhattan Beach surfer issued $1,000 citation for violating beach closure order, disrespecting lifeguard.

https://easyreadernews.com/manhattan...ing-lifeguard/

That's just lack of common sense and power tripping by a 'wanna be life guard.

**iceman** · 03-29-2020, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Ski220

Absolutely. Except Coumo will pout and rant and rage and threaten to sue you.

I'll take "People Who Don't Get It" for a thousand please Alex.

**Cono Este** · 03-29-2020, 11:25 AM

I think there will be a second round of panic when the results start coming in. I just took the family to DefCon3 after seeing all the orthodox Jewish people walking to temple last night. The little kids out playing together.

People are clueless.

Don’t forget to re provision TP if U find it.

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**Benny Profane** · 03-29-2020, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by rideit

Not to be chicken little, but is anyone else concerned about food shortages as factories, manufacturers, farms, bakeries, meat processing plants, and all other parts of the supply chain get disrupted?
Someone has to make everything in the stores...

Yes.

But I'm a little more concerned about the breakdown of social order as "first responders" get ill at the same time they are emptying the jails. And, then yeah, food shortages on top of that.

**4matic** · 03-29-2020, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by Cono Este

I think there will be a second round of panic when the results start coming in. I just took the family to DefCon3 after seeing all the orthodox Jewish people walking to temple last night. The little kids out playing together.

People are clueless.

Don’t forget to re provision TP if U find it.

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Cal is all bag your own now. Safeway sent out notice to retired and former employees offering $2 an hour raise.

**Ski220** · 03-29-2020, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by iceman

I'll take "People Who Don't Get It" for a thousand please Alex.

Except I do get it.

Stopping the spread is what it is all about. Wearing masks, gloves and good hygiene.
No mask, no entry - good. You also need to stop the far spread. China shut down Hubie province. Italy and France have shut down entire countries.
I agree, Trump thinking out load sounds stupid.
The idea is not. "A strong travel advisory" is BS.

**Cono Este** · 03-29-2020, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Ski220

Except I do get it.

Stopping the spread is what it is all about. Wearing masks, gloves and good hygiene.
No mask, no entry - good. You also need to stop the far spread. China shut down Hubie province. Italy and France have shut down entire countries.
I agree, Trump thinking out load sounds stupid.
The idea is not. "A strong travel advisory" is BS.

Yeah, that’s the only part of Bill Gates interview I didn’t get. He wants a country wide lockdown but no travel restrictions? If we’re going to praise the Chinese, then we should be limiting travel, in all states!

I’m told in Chile, there are restrictions in Santiago.

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**Cono Este** · 03-29-2020, 11:41 AM

What the fuck is the difference if we ban travel when we’re already locked up in our houses?

Anyway, its too late anyway. We need a nation wide lockdown/travel ban now, cause New Yorkers were so special those that could have already fled.

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**jono** · 03-29-2020, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by LongShortLong

These guys are considerably more optimistic They assume all states implement effective strong social distancing measures in the next week, and estimate 80k deaths by August (with some hospital overwhelmage).

Currently predicting peak death rate 15 days out would imply we were at peak transmission 5 days ago (on average), right?

Seems like a more granular view might be useful.

**up an down** · 03-29-2020, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by 54-46

I wonder how SEC Football fans are going to get their fill come fall?

Cautionary tale: https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate.c...oronavirus.amp

They will have to use the jockstraps that they sniff as full time face masks

**swissiphic** · 03-29-2020, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Cono Este

I think there will be a second round of panic when the results start coming in.

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Originally Posted by Benny Profane

Yes.

But I'm a little more concerned about the breakdown of social order as "first responders" get ill at the same time they are emptying the jails. And, then yeah, food shortages on top of that.

Been considering this since the get go...my question is...what will the leading indicators be? For example, there was a five day lag time between the first reports of toilet paper being hoarded in big cities in the states to reports of runs on teepee here locally in small town bc canada.

I have a personal escape plan to an isolated fishing village off the west coast that will have a reliable supply of ocean and land based proteins and a climate that is conducive to growing stuff in a greeenhouse. Sure as fawk hope it doesn't get to that point...the cats don't road trip all that well...but...just in case, provisions have been prepared and the step by step plan is ready. My better half is on board with the program.

**up an down** · 03-29-2020, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by swissiphic

Been considering this since the get go...my question is...what will the leading indicators be? For example, there was a five day lag time between the first reports of toilet paper being hoarded in big cities in the states to reports of runs on teepee here locally in small town bc canada.

I have a personal escape plan to an isolated fishing village off the west coast that will have a reliable supply of ocean and land based proteins and a climate that is conducive to growing stuff in a greeenhouse. Sure as fawk hope it doesn't get to that point...the cats don't road trip all that well...but...just in case, provisions have been prepared and the step by step plan is ready. My better half is on board with the program.

If it does get that bad...you may find the village quite crowded when you arrive

**gravitylover** · 03-29-2020, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by 4matic

You’ve read it here. All those people lining up at the stores to stock up are the problem. Food magically appears every night. No need for concern.

Not really. I haven't had any fresh veggies in a few days now because most of what's available after the senior hours is garbage. Frozen has been mostly sold out for a week now and when I looked on Thursday afternoon at the biggest supermarket in the area there wasn't a single package of frozen veggies in the store. I tried waiting in line the other day, got there at 6am as the senior hours were starting and the line was out to the end of the parking lot filled with people waiting for senior hours to end. The people getting there at 6am don't get in until after 9 and by then there's nothing important left.

**Benny Profane** · 03-29-2020, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by gravitylover

Not really. I haven't had any fresh veggies in a few days now because most of what's available after the senior hours is garbage. Frozen has been mostly sold out for a week now and when I looked on Thursday afternoon at the biggest supermarket in the area there wasn't a single package of frozen veggies in the store. I tried waiting in line the other day, got there at 6am as the senior hours were starting and the line was out to the end of the parking lot filled with people waiting for senior hours to end. The people getting there at 6am don't get in until after 9 and by then there's nothing important left.

Was this Saturday? Which store?

**dunfree** · 03-29-2020, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by up an down

If it does get that bad...you may find the village quite crowded when you arrive

and you better hope you don’t need medical care when you get there.

**Deebased** · 03-29-2020, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by rideit

Not to be chicken little, but is anyone else concerned about food shortages as factories, manufacturers, farms, bakeries, meat processing plants, and all other parts of the supply chain get disrupted?
Someone has to make everything in the stores...

YES

Given the delay of the virus between cities and rural, coupled with the lower rates of transmission where social distancing is natural; cities are going to get double fucked.

When the guys that let America survive get on the stay at home plan we're all fucked.

Plant your garden and hunker down.

**Rideski** · 03-29-2020, 12:07 PM

**Cono Este** · 03-29-2020, 12:10 PM

If any of this shit is true, then when we start peaking, people will go full retard. Let’s just say, it might have been a good week to dump your stocks.

A week ago I was still telling people “no”. No I’m going to go to dinner with a friend etc. now those people are cracking. People will continue to crack.

It’s just the beginning.

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