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    Quote Originally Posted by MultiVerse View Post
    The U.S. is testing many fewer people per capita than other countries. As of March 12, it was 23 per million in the U.S., versus 826 per million in Italy, and 3,692 per million in South Korea so the answer is we just don't know how we're doing.
    Quote Originally Posted by huckbucket View Post
    Before the virus reaches a certain level of penetration in a country, the size of the country has less influence on the slope of the curve than the immediate proximity of neighbors, towns and cities. For example, in Wuhan only 59K/11M = 0.5% of the population was infected, so it doesn't matter that China as a nation has 23X the population that Italy does.
    That all makes sense. so that graph is still useful. appreciate you both setting me straight.

    This is why we need testing, because we can't judge if anything we're doing is working unless we base it off corpse count compared to other countries I would guess?
    Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    At Lowe’s they told me they were cleaned out a month Ago. Mostly Asians. They bought everything and then had the manager call other stores. Which makes sense because they had a real problem back home, relatives etc. I’m not stirring up hate, they probably had family. A shortage, or sky high prices. I’d have done the same if a relative in England asked me to.


    But someone here, other than the preppers, should have seen that coming. Our hospital staff could be totally fucked.


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    I hear you. I hadn't heard that. Also, doesn't China use the left hand approach rather than TP in general?
    Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that

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    Fire/ Ems Update #3 (SW Edition)

    Just sat thru a webinar put on by the IAFC.....They tried to live stream it yesterday but so many Chiefs signed up for it the system crashed. Mostly dealt with best practices for Fire Departments, which we are actually doing most of already. The personal protective equipment (PPE) shortages are already starting to show up in places like Seattle and NYC, so if we can't flatten that curve, it's going to become a serious issue, and fast.
    We currently have four members in quarantine for high-risk exposure to patients who tested positive for Covid19. That number will increase, we just don't know how much or how soon. To Iceman's point about surgical masks, the first thing our crews are doing when they run on a potential Covid patient is hand the patient a mask and have them put it on if they are able. This is to reduce the level of exposure hazard to our members.
    Last year we averaged 290 calls a day for people feeling "sick". That number has actually dropped to around 260, so I'm cautiously optimistic that people are using telemedicine or nursing hotlines. Small sample size as far as time, so we will see.
    We have four drive thru testing sites set up. We are looking at finding a building that we can convert to a public safety- only testing site for police and fire. Cautiously optimistic on this as well.
    Everyone is stressed to some degree, but we are managing.....No word from the state about any sort of drastic lockdown like New Jersey just did, but again it's still pretty early for us. Again people, stay home. And air hugs to any of you on the front lines.....I'll keep you all updated. I will defer to Brother Diamond Joe for an EC update. Stay safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush View Post
    This is why we need testing, because we can't judge if anything we're doing is working unless we base it off corpse count compared to other countries I would guess?
    Yeah, testing is important. There’s a chart on the second page of this presentation showing the epidemic trend in Shanghai past 25 days. It also compares Shanghai's spread with Italy's:

    http://himalayacapital.com/2020.3.13...ng%20ZHANG.pdf

    Using testing to enable early control of local transmission is key to stopping disease spread. How they slowed the spread and treated infected patients:

    - All suspected patients should be tested at least twice by CDC

    - All nucleic tests and treatment are free

    - All diagnosed patients should be admitted to designated hospital

    - All close contacts of the diagnosed patients were traced and quarantined for 14 days, and all close contacts of the diagnosed patients received SARS-CoV-2 RT-PCR tests


    - Shanghai opened 110 designated fever clinics

    - ALL patients who met epidemiology criteria+1 clinical relevant symptom scan go to these clinics

    - If the physicians thought the patient met the criteria of suspected COVID-19 infections, the patient would be admitted in to the quarantine ward and CDC staff would come for sampling and epidemiological questions

    - If nucleic acid test turned our positive, all patients were enrolled into the designated hospital in Shanghai

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    When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis


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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush View Post
    This is why we need testing, because we can't judge if anything we're doing is working unless we base it off corpse count compared to other countries I would guess?
    And here's your death chart ... agreed that this is probably more informative although it's not mutually exclusive of testing. In other words, one has to test positive in order to attribute the death to the virus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiballs View Post
    Motherfucker! Does this mean the new sex swing won't be showing up soon?
    No live music and no new sex toys, take me now caronaviris, take me now.
    Heh. It’s temporary, and they say they’ll continue to ship everything they have, just prioritizing for essentials.
    https://twitter.com/amazonnews/statu...120344576?s=21

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    Quote Originally Posted by seano732 View Post
    Fire/ Ems Update #3 (SW Edition)

    Just sat thru a webinar put on by the IAFC.....They tried to live stream it yesterday but so many Chiefs signed up for it the system crashed. Mostly dealt with best practices for Fire Departments, which we are actually doing most of already. The personal protective equipment (PPE) shortages are already starting to show up in places like Seattle and NYC, so if we can't flatten that curve, it's going to become a serious issue, and fast.
    We currently have four members in quarantine for high-risk exposure to patients who tested positive for Covid19. That number will increase, we just don't know how much or how soon. To Iceman's point about surgical masks, the first thing our crews are doing when they run on a potential Covid patient is hand the patient a mask and have them put it on if they are able. This is to reduce the level of exposure hazard to our members.
    Last year we averaged 290 calls a day for people feeling "sick". That number has actually dropped to around 260, so I'm cautiously optimistic that people are using telemedicine or nursing hotlines. Small sample size as far as time, so we will see.
    We have four drive thru testing sites set up. We are looking at finding a building that we can convert to a public safety- only testing site for police and fire. Cautiously optimistic on this as well.
    Everyone is stressed to some degree, but we are managing.....No word from the state about any sort of drastic lockdown like New Jersey just did, but again it's still pretty early for us. Again people, stay home. And air hugs to any of you on the front lines.....I'll keep you all updated. I will defer to Brother Diamond Joe for an EC update. Stay safe.
    Hang in there. Suerte.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    When deciding between fucking the economy and the economic well being of the 95% of the people who would survive this thing, vs the 5% of the largely elderly who won't it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out in a little while.
    But no one gives two fucks when we have a bad flu season. The crime doesn't fit the punishment. If we banned all corporate media for 2 weeks this virus would magically disappear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGnight View Post
    But no one gives two fucks when we have a bad flu season. The crime doesn't fit the punishment. If we banned all corporate media for 2 weeks this virus would magically disappear.
    Boy, you're a special kind of stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huckbucket View Post
    And here's your death chart ... agreed that this is probably more informative although it's not mutually exclusive of testing. In other words, one has to test positive in order to attribute the death to the virus.

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    How do you know those are Covid-19 cases? They could just be a myriad of other illness that test positive on these bullshit PCR tests. No one tests the tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glademaster View Post
    Boy, you're a special kind of stupid.
    no u...I WIN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGnight View Post
    How do you know those are Covid-19 cases? They could just be a myriad of other illness that test positive on these bullshit PCR tests. No one tests the tests.
    Reading comp is kindof a problem for you isn't it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGnight View Post
    How do you know those are Covid-19 cases? They could just be a myriad of other illness that test positive on these bullshit PCR tests. No one tests the tests.
    ROTFL

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    Aim for the chopping block. If you aim for the wood, you will have nothing. Aim past the wood, aim through the wood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BGnight View Post
    How do you know those are Covid-19 cases? They could just be a myriad of other illness that test positive on these bullshit PCR tests. No one tests the tests.
    How do we know that you can differentiate between test and testes?
    what's so funny about peace, love, and understanding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deebased View Post
    So you're a dumb fuck Bernie bro who thinks the nordic countries are socialist.

    All you needed to say. Go give Benny a hand job before he gets Covid or at least don't lick your hands afterwards.

    Way to counter facts with insults

    Then couple it with a decades old insult.

    Where did you pick that up? a bar in Moab?

    Quote Originally Posted by gravitylover View Post
    @splat I think the military rule thing is a heck of a stretch.
    We're one penstroke away from martial law now. Martial law is military rule.
    One of the first things that happens is prisoners are summarily executed.
    Saw that there's almost 30 covid cases in the LA County Jail alone.
    That might make sheriffs and wardens scream to clear the joints out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGnight View Post
    bullshit PCR tests
    Bummer the Nobel committee didn't have you around in 1993 when they gave a FUCKING NOBEL PRIZE for the development of PCR, probably the most reliable and useful fucking technique in the modern biology arsenal...

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    This is the 1st time I've ever heard ANYONE claim that a nordic country wasn't socialist...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boissal View Post
    Bummer the Nobel committee didn't have you around in 1993 when they gave a FUCKING NOBEL PRIZE for the development of PCR, probably the most reliable and useful fucking technique in the modern biology arsenal...
    pffffft. Obama got one of those too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boissal View Post
    Bummer the Nobel committee didn't have you around in 1993 when they gave a FUCKING NOBEL PRIZE for the development of PCR, probably the most reliable and useful fucking technique in the modern biology arsenal...
    powered by shrooms ....

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    "Where are the photos of overflowing intensive care departments and the thousands of virus victims? I would add, where are the photos of the funerals and interviews with families of those who have succumbed to the virus?

    These are genuine questions, it has seemed very curious to me that we have not seen endless footage of emergency vehicles arriving at packed hospitals brimming with patients in need of emergency care.

    In any other situation we would be saturated with news feeds providing 24/7 coverage." -Vanessa Beeley. Investigative journalist

    Sooo, where's the bodies??

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    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32133832

    "Conclusions: In the close contacts of COVID-19 patients, nearly half or even more of the 'asymptomatic infected individuals' reported in the active nucleic acid test screening might be false positives."

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    March 16, 2020

    A German lung specialist confirmed that the virus test has not yet been clinically validated, i.e. it may indeed respond positive to normal coronaviruses, too.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_AyuhbnPOI

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGnight View Post
    pffffft. Obama got one of those too.
    Are you and Benny related?....or possibly one and the same??..you share a certain manner of satirical insouciance. .....And you are both European locals.
    what's so funny about peace, love, and understanding?

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