Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

**From_the_NEK** · 03-12-2020, 12:57 PM

NHL suspended. Guess I don't have to worry about sucking up the cost of those tickets quite yet. I really wanted to go but didn't really want to be "that guy" who drags this thing back into my area.
Also both of my parents are old and immune compromised. I have to help with things almost every day. If I ended up quarantined, that would be a very rough stretch for them.

**KenJongIll** · 03-12-2020, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by skaredshtles

You're not wrong...

I know...I’m very right. In essence the only way to win this argument vs the idiots, is for it to be devastatingly bad. And no one wants that. So we will hope the idiots win.

**BmillsSkier** · 03-12-2020, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by KenJongIll

I posted this on another forum, in response to a similar post as yours...Why revisiting these threads to declare a winner might not work

Morans- “Man this is such over hyped bullshit, cancelling everything, NBA, baseball,etc over the flu, it’s stupid. This shit will be gone in 3 weeks”

People- “Look asshole, we are trying to flatten the curve...are you too stupid to understand what that means?”

Morans- “**** you smart boy”

people - “Dear God you’re an idiot...”

60 days later, cases are declining, the curve is flattened, things are not looking so grim

Morans- “See you ******* pussies, I told you it weren’t gone be so bad...”

But that means no reckless speculation either? That's like 37% of the last 4 pages alone.

**bennymac** · 03-12-2020, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by 4matic

There are cures for some diseases. Flu is not one of them.

I’ll say it again - every cure mitigates symptoms. What you posted was nonsensical.

But sure, against my better judgement I’ll bite: how do you define “a cure”?

Does giving antibiotics to a person with a bacterial infection = a cure?

**PNWbrit** · 03-12-2020, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by bennymac

I’ll say it again - every cure mitigates symptoms. What you posted was nonsensical.

But sure, against my better judgement I’ll bite: how do you define “a cure”?

Does giving antibiotics to a person with a bacterial infection = a cure?

Not everything that mitigates symptoms is a cure...

**bennymac** · 03-12-2020, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by PNWbrit

Not everything that mitigates symptoms is a cure...

I didn’t say that. Did someone else?

Tylenol mitigates flu symptoms. It’s not a cure for the flu. I know that’s not rocket science - just want to ensure we’re all on the same page here.

**4matic** · 03-12-2020, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by bennymac

Does giving antibiotics to a person with a bacterial infection = a cure?

Depends on the infection

**From_the_NEK** · 03-12-2020, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by KenJongIll

I know...I’m very right. In essence the only way to win this argument vs the idiots, is for it to be devastatingly bad. And no one wants that. So we will hope the idiots win.

Although that may lead to the production of an ever growing group of idiots.

Shouldn't need repeating but...

**Timberridge** · 03-12-2020, 01:06 PM

^What the fuck are you guys even arguing about?

**The Tortoise** · 03-12-2020, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by BmillsSkier

This thread is spreading faster than the virus.

#3. We can do better.

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**4matic** · 03-12-2020, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by bennymac

I didn’t say that. Did someone else?

That's exactly what i said

**BmillsSkier** · 03-12-2020, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by BmillsSkier

The level of people I’m hearing today actively rooting for more chaos in the healthcare system and economy, so they can either say I told you so, blame political party ___, or they just thrive on bad news, is disturbing.

Shadenfreude on another level.

Originally Posted by KenJongIll

I know...I’m very right. In essence the only way to win this argument vs the idiots, is for it to be devastatingly bad. And no one wants that. So we will hope the idiots win.

The need to be right versus the uninformed mouthbreathers is nearly as great as the desire to recklessly speculate on doomsday scenarios it seems lately.

**splat** · 03-12-2020, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Timberridge

Doesn't the TGR demographic skew to voracious weed smokers 50+? This place could be empty by the 22nd.

See....that'll be the proof.

**rod9301** · 03-12-2020, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by The SnowShow

Colorado now has drive thru testing - why the fuck isn’t this set up everywhere in this country?

Exactly

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**The Tortoise** · 03-12-2020, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by bennymac

You clearly don’t know what the fuck you are talking about. Take a cruise.

This is the new "take a lap"

**Mofro261** · 03-12-2020, 01:24 PM

Someday there'll be a cure for pain
That's the day I throw my drugs away

**BmillsSkier** · 03-12-2020, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by The Tortoise

#3. We can do better.

We're Number 3!!!!

Originally Posted by Mofro261

Someday there'll be a cure for pain
That's the day I throw my drugs away

Well, you've got to post the song now that it's in our heads.

**PNWbrit** · 03-12-2020, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by rod9301

Exactly

I've heard several experts explain that widespread testing isn't particularly useful at this point. Especially since the tests are in short supply and are better used for healthcare workers and the elderly.

**Benny Profane** · 03-12-2020, 01:26 PM

The new phone book is here! The new phone book is here!

**Benny Profane** · 03-12-2020, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by Timberridge

Doesn't the TGR demographic skew to voracious weed smokers 50+? This place could be empty by the 22nd.

Edibles changed everything.

**Timberridge** · 03-12-2020, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by PNWbrit

I've heard several experts explain that widespread testing isn't particularly useful at this point. Especially since the tests are in short supply and are better used for healthcare workers and the elderly.

Plus, remember what happened at the Popeye's drive thru's when they ran out of chicken sandwiches? "What'd you mean that was the last test kit bitchassmutherfucker?"

**Deebased** · 03-12-2020, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by Timberridge

^What the fuck are you guys even arguing about?

That they can visualize semi-exponential curves better than some jackoff in Florida.

**PNWbrit** · 03-12-2020, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Timberridge

Plus, remember what happened at the Popeye's drive thru's when they ran out of chicken sandwiches? "What'd you mean that was the last test kit bitchassmutherfucker?"

Can you imagine the fucking chaos.

People would be joining the back of the queue straight after testing negative.

**bennymac** · 03-12-2020, 01:34 PM

JFC - just to summarize:

not everything that mitigates symptoms is a cure (Tylenol lowers a fever and helps with aches and pain of the flu - but it’s not a cure)

something that cures a disease by definition is going to mitigate the symptoms of that disease

How we define “cure” can be up for debate

- if I have bacterial meningitis and I’m given antibiotics and I get better was I cured?

- tamiflu is an antiviral - it’s even given in flu outbreaks to vulnerable people in order to prophylactically prevent flu from developing...is that being given prophylactically just to mitigate their symptoms? No - it’s being given to prevent the flu virus from replicating inside those patients - that’s how it works.

Whether you feel that constitutes a cure is I guess debatable. But to say Tamiflu is just for symptom treatment is not accurate in my opinion (even though it of course improves symptoms )