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    ^here's one for you and still time to bid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    I just bought a two pack with the Pats logo for $12.99 on the NFL fanshop site.
    While everyone else worries about COVID-19, Pats fans are ravaged by TB12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glademaster View Post
    They wouldn't have to if he hadn't started this fabricated story about a virus, complete with tens of thousands of crisis actors. This is just a socialist plot to institute a nationwide general strike and hamstring the nation's productivity.
    I knew it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    You know its coming. What better way to get people to wear masks?
    Spread some sort of invisible virus around? :O

    Had daughter "customize" our masks so we know whose is whose... set them in sun for an hour or two after each use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    If somebody could cut-n-paste the WSJ article about this I'd appreciate it: https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-milli...ne-11585821600
    This seems to be all it says, rather brief?


    Anthony Fauci’s security is stepped up as doctor and face of U.S. coronavirus response receives threats

    Yasmeen Abutaleb
    Anthony S. Fauci is one of the leading experts of the coronavirus task force. (Taylor Turner/The Washington Post)
    April 1, 2020 at 6:11 p.m. MDT

    Anthony S. Fauci, the nation’s top infectious-diseases expert and the face of the U.S. response to the novel coronavirus pandemic, is facing growing threats to his personal safety, prompting the government to step up his security, according to people familiar with the matter.

    The concerns include threats as well as unwelcome communications from fervent admirers, according to people with knowledge of deliberations inside the Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Justice

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    Quote Originally Posted by frorider View Post
    Speaking of coronaconspiracy tards, did you read about that engr who tried to drive a train into USNS Mercy because he wanted to ‘wake people up’?
    Somebody had been watching too many Die Hard movies in lockdown.

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    @Rideski: The link I posted should lead to a WSJ article about the Patriots mask mission to China. It's not very important, I just wanted to read about how it went down.

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    The price of an increasing population.
    Who would have predicted such a thing would happen again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    If somebody could cut-n-paste the WSJ article about this I'd appreciate it: https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-milli...ne-11585821600


    At 3:38 a.m. Wednesday morning, the New England Patriots' team plane departed from an unusual locale: Shenzhen, China. On board the Boeing 767, in the cargo hold that used to be home to Tom Brady's duffel bags, were 1.2 million N95 masks bound for the U.S.


    Video and pictures of the event show workers in masks and full-body suits at Shenzhen Bao'an International Airport loading box after box of the scarce and valuable personal protective equipment onto a red, white and blue plane emblazoned with the Patriots logo and "6X CHAMPIONS."

    The plane was permitted to be on the ground in China for a maximum of three hours, people familiar with the matter said, and the crew was required to stay on the plane while a ground crew loaded the cargo. It took 2 hours and 57 minutes. On Thursday, that plane will land somewhere more familiar: Boston Logan International Airport.

    The story of this remarkable delivery, based on documents and interviews with people involved in the operation, is a window into the frenzied scramble by states to acquire life-saving equipment needed to battle the coronavirus pandemic. The process involves not just tracking down goods, but also tapping intermediaries and calling in favors to navigate a dense global bureaucracy that the pandemic has virtually paralyzed.

    As the country and the medical system have grappled with responding to the virus, one of the greatest pressure points has been the shortage of N95 masks, critical equipment to protect against its spread. Demand has significantly outpaced supply, putting health-care workers and patients at even greater risk.

    Massachusetts' quest to acquire these masks was a tense, weekslong saga that began with the state's governor and winded through embassies, private partners and the U.S.'s most successful football franchise. After a layover in Alaska and an anxious process to win approval from Chinese officials, the plane was given permission to land in China to collect the masks.

    "I've never seen so much red tape in so many ways and obstacles that we had to overcome," said Robert Kraft, the Patriots' owner. "In today's world, those of us who are fortunate to make a difference have a significant responsibility to do so with all the assets we have available to us."

    The effort began with Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker, who was concerned about the state's mask supply and, two weeks ago, believed he had struck a deal to acquire more than a million of them from a collection of Chinese manufacturers. But officials had to figure out how to get them shipped out of China at a time when unusual cargo shipments out of the country can be especially tricky.

    "I just have to get them here," he told a longtime friend.

    That longtime friend was Jonathan Kraft, Robert Kraft's son, who holds two jobs that became highly relevant to the proceedings. Jonathan Kraft is the chairman of the board at Massachusetts General Hospital, one of the country's most renowned facilities. He's also the Patriots' president, and the team had something it thought might be of help: a giant airplane.

    There were tough questions to resolve. Robert and Jonathan Kraft first had to check if the plane were ready and able to make such a lengthy journey on such short notice. There was also the fact that the team's Boeing 767 is a passenger plane built to carry Bill Belichick and Tom Brady, not massive stores of cargo.

    Then, most critically, they had to secure permission to land in China — a delicate feat during this global pandemic. Even if they received the proper permits, they were worried the pilots would be required by China to quarantine for 14 days before returning.

    The primary issue was the simplest: getting the right to land the 767. Gov. Baker, the U.S. State Department, Robert Kraft and others sent letters to China's general counsel in New York requesting the special permits. The letters, dated March 24 to 30, ask for waivers to allow the humanitarian mission and state that no member of the crew would leave the aircraft.

    By last Friday night, the crew had moved to Wilmington, Ohio, because the plane needed an avionics upgrade for the international trip. The mission received waivers from China to land and do so without quarantining — nobody would be on board besides the necessary flight crew — but they were told the crew still needed visas. So the entire group scrambled to a local pharmacy and took pictures for the application. The pictures were flown to New York to be taken to the Chinese embassy, and then flown back to Ohio. Huang Ping, China's counsel general in New York, proved to be a major ally in the effort and get the rush jobs done, including by opening the consulate over the weekend to get the visas processed in time, people familiar with the matter said.

    Next, the plane headed to Alaska. The only breaks the crew took from then on were for mandatory rest and downtime. As a precaution, the crew included maintenance people and spare parts so they could solve any potential issues in China without people on the ground.

    In addition to handling the logistics and the plane, the Kraft family had agreed to pay $2 million, or approximately half the cost of the goods. The order of 1.7 million N95 masks was produced by various manufacturers across the country. "What we needed," said Jim Nolan, who spearheaded the logistics as the COO of Kraft Sports and Entertainment, "were boots on the ground to gather the goods and get them to the right place."

    They needed even more than that: the products needed to be counted, inspected and then quickly ushered through customs. Through intermediaries, people familiar with the matter said, they were connected to executives at Chinese tech giant Tencent, who pledged a crew of more than a dozen people. Over the course of several days, the Tencent team mobilized to inspect and aggregate the masks. Some facilities had less than promised and were still waiting on the production to be complete. The crew stayed with the goods overnight to make sure nothing happened to them before taking them to the Shenzhen airport and shuttling them through customs.

    By early Wednesday morning on the East Coast, the Patriots' 767 had landed in Shenzhen from Alaska. It stayed grounded for 2 hours and 57 minutes — just within the three-hour window the crew was given. Because cargo wasn't allowed on parts of the passenger plane, only 1.2 million of the masks fit. The rest, which is being held securely by Tencent, will be transported shortly on another shipment.

    The plane headed back to Alaska, and then Boston. But that wasn't the last stop for some of the masks. Robert Kraft, despite his franchise's historical acrimony with the New York Jets, has always held a soft spot for New York. He attended Columbia University, has a residence in the city and said he was especially moved when the two teams played in the first weekend of games after the 9/11 attacks, when the Patriots were led out of the tunnel by a Patriots' player whose family members served in the New York City Fire Department and were being cheered on the field.

    Kraft added that he has been moved by the leadership of Gov. Andrew Cuomo over the last several weeks. And that gave him an idea.

    So, with the agreement of Gov. Baker, they pledged to send 300,000 of the masks on to New York.

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    If you like charts and stats some pretty interesting stuff in this article. Hopefully it's not behind the paywall:
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...istancing.html
    "Where America Didn’t Stay Home Even as the Virus Spread"

    One of the stats compares average weekday distance traveled across the U.S. As an example, on Feb. 28th the average in Seattle was 3.8 miles. On March 27th it was 61 feet! Contrast that with Daytona Beach. On 2/28 it was 4.4 miles, on 3/27 it was 1.9 miles.

    Of course the governor of Georgia only just heard that asymptomatic people can still pass the virus to others.

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    thanks Multiverse

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    Quote Originally Posted by huckbucket View Post
    The price of an increasing population.
    Who would have predicted such a thing would happen again?
    Globalization as much as anything. Nothing is local.

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    Had to wonder when some billionaire would step up to help with this. Good move and probably not as easy to do as you'd think.

    And very cool to share so many with NY, too. Props to Kraft
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy View Post
    Had to wonder when some billionaire would step up to help with this. Good move and probably not as easy to do as you'd think.
    Apple did it. Tesla got vents. Why would they want to do Trump any favors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy View Post
    Had to wonder when some billionaire would step up to help with this. Good move and probably not as easy to do as you'd think.

    And very cool to share so many with NY, too. Props to Kraft
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    Globalization as much as anything. Nothing is local.
    Incidence is driven by opportunity which is dependent on more people.
    Spread is separate which as you said is driven by globalization.

    Need both, so I agree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    Apple did it. Tesla got vents. Why would they want to do Trump any favors?
    Props to all these companies for chipping in, but it seemed like this was one of the biggest issues for the health caretakers on the front lines. I cleaned out my garage and found three half opened boxes of N95 masks, but no one wanted them because they were open. I just know if I had the means, this would be something I would have pursued.

    Trump will spin it his way however he can... but caretakers seriously needed masks and it's an apolitical issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy View Post
    it's an apolitical issue.
    It should be

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    Need bigger brains than mine to comment on this.

    So they're saying that we should wear a mask and that any mask is better than no mask.

    Ghettowerx home brew c19 mask for going grocery shopping. Just concept only...this ski mask is pretty air permeable so prolly not effective in the least...but thought I'd use it as a basis for illustration of concept.

    Imagine that the ski mask is an impermeable, precisely sealed against the skin design with a breathing hole in front of the mouth. Tape 3 layers of paper towel over the breathing hole. What other common/around the house items/fabric would be more effective for purpose if no proper 'correct' filter material can be sourced?

    Hypothesis: inner layer catches the moist breathing/coughing stuff. middle layer...dunno, just there as a layer to slow transmission of inner/outer layer stuff...outer layer catches some of the stuff floating around in the outside air environment?

    After use, peel off the filter layers/tape, discard, and decontaminate the periphery mask so that it's ready for future use.

    Just throwin' it out there. Useless? Useful? Go ahead, flame away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frorider View Post
    Meanwhile the magatards are sending death threats to Fauci.
    To be fair, he is now receiving protection both because of the threats and 'extremely fervent admirers'. People are weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by huckbucket View Post
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    The price of an increasing population.
    Who would have predicted such a thing would happen again?
    Not that long ago the United States was the best, as in the first to respond, and the country everyone else looked to for leadership during an outbreak. The preparedness exercises that took place last year all assumed the U.S. would lead, nobody anticipated we'd drag our feet.

    In happier news the U.S. is weeks away from announcing the most recent Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic of the Congo is over. Dr. Anthony Fauci played a role there too:

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    Quote Originally Posted by swissiphic View Post
    Need bigger brains than mine to comment on this.

    So they're saying that we should wear a mask and that any mask is better than no mask.

    Ghettowerx home brew c19 mask for going grocery shopping. Just concept only...this ski mask is pretty air permeable so prolly not effective in the least...but thought I'd use it as a basis for illustration of concept.

    Imagine that the ski mask is an impermeable, precisely sealed against the skin design with a breathing hole in front of the mouth. Tape 3 layers of paper towel over the breathing hole. What other common/around the house items/fabric would be more effective for purpose if no proper 'correct' filter material can be sourced?

    Hypothesis: inner layer catches the moist breathing/coughing stuff. middle layer...dunno, just there as a layer to slow transmission of inner/outer layer stuff...outer layer catches some of the stuff floating around in the outside air environment?

    After use, peel off the filter layers/tape, discard, and decontaminate the periphery mask so that it's ready for future use.

    Just throwin' it out there. Useless? Useful? Go ahead, flame away.

    I'm going to dig deep here for my best scientific insight. Ready?



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    Quote Originally Posted by powdork View Post
    To be fair, he is now receiving protection both because of the threats and 'extremely fervent admirers'. People are weird.
    Can relate. I have a security detail to deal with the women throwing themselves at me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNKen View Post
    Friend of mine is a Blackhawk pilot and flight medic with Homeland Defense. Dispatched to New Orleans yesterday.
    Never a dull moment there.


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    It's quiet outside, much more quiet than normal.
    Day 11 of isolation, no symptoms.
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