Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

[liv2ski]

^^^^^ and like the original, it doesn't fucking help at all.

[Mustonen]

I liked the billionaire one better.

[liv2ski]

Well now that it's after 10:00am here on the west coast, I think it's time for a beer.

I'm with you

[Benny Profane]

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Too poly? Too bad, too good.

I have something better. Actual Trump TP.

[TBS]

Listened to an interesting piece on NPR this AM on my one hour trip to the grocery with on-line ordering & remote pickup
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/28/82307...ial-distancing
4 minute listen. TLL = Cities who shut down harder and longer in 1918 did better economically

References
5 lessons on social distancing from the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic
One big lesson: You can’t give up early on social distancing.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...18-spanish-flu

The comparison of behavior/consequences in Philadelphia and St Louis are pretty striking

Pandemic Shutdowns Actually Helped Economic Growth in 1918 Flu
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...th-in-1918-flu

[bennymac]

I read somewhere, and this thread moves so fast there's no way I could find the link, that the asymptomatic carriers would not have the antibodies and could still become infected. Something about the virus needing to reach the lymph nodes to elicit a response from the immune system.

Any of you epidentists know anything about that?

That would be very hard to sort out right now - it would mean finding people who have currently have zero symptoms, swabbing them, taking the people that swabbed positive, tracking them, then taking the people who remained symptom free (didn't start showing symptoms a couple days later), following them to make sure they never picked up virus from others and then became infected, and finally checking to see if they developed immunity through antibody testing.

This may be information that is available in the future but right now is not ( I don't believe) - so hard to make any firm statements.

It's possible that someone could have covid virus in their nose/throat and not show symptoms and not get the disease and not develop immunity from that - but that would suggest a very low load of virus in there (that never takes hold) and that person would be very unlikely to be overly contagious to others (my opinion). But the lack of exposure of the virus to their immune system would mean that technically yes - they had covid in their body but did not develop immunity.

My armchair epidentist call is that true asymptomatic covid spreaders are likely developing a degree of immunity for themselves. Our immune systems are very complicated and "immunity" is not a all or nothing position nor is it static - so that complicates answers further.

[4matic]

get chrome cookie remover extension, ya cheap bastard.

Which one?

[gravitylover]

Well now that it's after 10:00am here on the west coast, I think it's time for a beer.

Today was the start of Bloody Mary's for breakfast.

Epidentists (love that, powdork) - dont' forget to change from your daytime pajamas into your nighttime pajamas at 9 pm.

I'm happy if I remember to change my undies 😳

[Core Shot]

Kevin Bacon man. Kevin Fucking Bacon

Kevin bacon has covid?

Vibes

[bennymac]

Kevin bacon has covid?

Vibes

If he does then we all do.

[Benny Profane]

I was kind of proud of myself taking a shower and shaving.

Take it from a retired person. No drinking until 5pm. You'll thank me.

[Ted Striker]

If he does then we all do.

well played

[iceman]

China reporting around 3,300 deaths and claiming no new cases...and yet 10,000 urns were just shipped to Wuhan...right.

Around 1000 people normally die per month of all causes in Wuhan... perhaps 5000 in Hubei province.

PRC is not above hiding deaths... or causing deaths... commies gonna commie.

While I agree that commies gonna commie, the numbers are bigger than that. China on the whole had a death rate in 2018 of 7.13/1000. Wuhan has 11 million people. That's just short of 215 deaths/day in Wuhan city. 10,000 urns would be less than a 2-month supply for Wuhan or less than a 2-week supply for the province (59M population) under normal circumstances.

[Lvovsky]

Soon the dentists will go go broke and will not be able to afford to ski. You'all will be bitching about epidemiologists...

[Core Shot]

I read
I thought

and you is jm's ski bum brother from another mum
and my brother bringing a little bit that helps me make it counts
stay in touch and keep bringing the goods

Better poet than bob Dylan

[powdork]

While I agree that commies gonna commie, the numbers are bigger than that. China on the whole had a death rate in 2018 of 7.13/1000. Wuhan has 11 million people. That's just short of 215 deaths/day in Wuhan city. 10,000 urns would be less than a 2-month supply for Wuhan or less than a 2-week supply for the province (59M population) under normal circumstances.

to further complicate the math, many of the covid deaths in hubei were going to be the normal deaths for the period

[glademaster]

I was kind of proud of myself taking a shower and shaving.

Take it from a retired person. No drinking until 5pm. You'll thank me.

Always good advice, but there are exceptions to every rule.

[riser4]

Yeti's words resonate!!

Yes.

[bennymac]

The same dipshit that said this:

"Every one of these doctors said, 'How do you know so much about this?' Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president."

then went on to say this:

"This whatever they want to call it. You call it a germ, you can call it a flu, you can call it a virus. You know, you can call it many different names. I'm not sure anybody even knows what it is, but the children do very well."

The emperor has no brains.

[SirVicSmasher]

Found out both owners of a favorite breakfast and lunch spot of mine both died from this shit. Sad really sad
https://www.seattletimes.com/life/fo...l-coronavirus/

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[The AD]

The same dipshit that said this:

"Every one of these doctors said, 'How do you know so much about this?' Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president."

You know how people cheer when the handicapped guy finishes a race?

[Lvovsky]

[Lvovsky]

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[Core Shot]

The Army Corps of Engineers said on Friday it was aiming to provide facilities for 3,000 people with the coronavirus at Chicago's McCormick Place convention center by April 24 for about $75 million.

[Ottime]

I was kind of proud of myself taking a shower and shaving.

Take it from a retired person. No drinking until 5pm. You'll thank me.

Fuck. Had a beard to start but have not shaved or trim in the past two weeks. Starting to look like Big Foot.