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Thread: Pivots vs Salomon Bindings
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01-13-2020, 07:14 PM #26
I mean, why would we compare incorrectly installed bindings? Of course they won’t work if they aren’t set correctly. It’s not hard to get the forward pressure right, and I totally agree that the heels don’t retain without forward pressure set up right. But that’s not how they are designed to work.
No bindings work well if they aren’t adjusted right.
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01-13-2020, 07:51 PM #27
Salomon fanboi for the last 20 years UNTIL....
the sth2 916. Developed significant heel slop in two pair when boot is in binding. Denied warranty.
Why, you ask, oh curious reader? Because Salomon decided to buck the last 40+ years of binding wisdom and instead of mounting the heel piece to the ski, they now have a track mounted to the ski, that the heel piece is then attached to it, which adds an additional unnecessary interface causing pre-mature slop and shitty releases.
After I got denied a Warranty claim twice I went to Look Pivots, couldn't be happier and a big fuck you to Salomon for screwing up an awesome and proven binding design but moreso for not standing behing your new shitty design when it failed.
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01-13-2020, 10:10 PM #28OH, MY GAWD! ―John Hillerman Big Billie Eilish fan.
But that's a quibble to what PG posted (at first, anyway, I haven't read his latest book) ―jono
we are not arguing about ski boots or fashionable clothing or spageheti O's which mean nothing in the grand scheme ― XXX-er
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01-13-2020, 10:23 PM #29
Pivots vs Salomon Bindings
I’ve never had any pre release issue with Tyrollia or Sally. Had Attacks and their predecessors for 10+ years and put tons of days and lots of hard skiing on them. I prefer the lower stack height of the Attacks.
I personally prefer the ease of getting in and out to Pivots and honestly can’t tell a difference when I ski them.
I’ve also never been able to do the Ski Patrol double entry in Pivots which is important.
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01-13-2020, 11:44 PM #30
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01-14-2020, 01:37 AM #31
The heel was never mounted directly to the ski in the older Driver/STH models. It was a heel track in housing with the heel sliding inside of it. Although different the track has always been the part screwed to the ski. The problem is they use cheaper/weaker material at the interface points, causing wear, resulting in slop. That being said I've seen sloppy 997's.... and plenty of broken sloppy pivots.
Currently I am about 50/50 Solly/Pivots. The Pivots are kind of a pain but they do ski better for me.a positive attitude will not solve all of your problems, but it may annoy enough people to make it worth the effort
Formerly Rludes025
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