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01-21-2020, 03:52 PM #76Registered User
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193 Billy Goat?? I thought the longest length was 191? Was that pre RES?
I know the Super Goats are 193.
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01-21-2020, 04:08 PM #77Hucked to flat once
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My favorite "charger" ski of all time was the BD 192 Zealot (green, not blue). Really underrated by folks with duct tape and aquaseal on their clothes.
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01-21-2020, 09:35 PM #78
Got 4” on ya, but same weight
Blue bull is also my DD
It’s not exciting, but it’s consistently predictable in any conditions. Like an old legend pro with more versatile side cut
Have a qlab I need to sell, speed limiter problem. Can’t ski as fast as me, tip too soft
Need to try the kastle.. . .
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01-21-2020, 09:55 PM #79Registered User
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01-21-2020, 10:06 PM #80
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01-21-2020, 11:51 PM #81
Monsters are like skiing on battering rams (or maybe heat seeking missiles)
el dictator is like skiing a trampoline.
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01-22-2020, 12:25 AM #82
Cheers.
Love my Monsters. Always been curious about the El Dictators
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01-22-2020, 05:47 PM #83
Skiingwithcharlie was kind enough to let me raid his pair from retirement status. If you are ever thru LCC, you can borrow em.
el dictator is a really fun ride. Pretty unique really. Long overall length, long edge length, huge radius. Pretty heavy. Pretty smooth ride. But quite soft compared to other big skis (like monster), so it actually carves pretty small radius turns with some input, and has tons of rebound, as it’s really easy to bend the ski into a turn. But compared to a monster, the tip gets pushed around in funky setup snow, where a monster would just smash the snow. But it mobs soft chopped up snow with great suspension.
a very fun and pretty unique ride.
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01-22-2020, 08:50 PM #84
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01-23-2020, 07:33 AM #85
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01-23-2020, 10:21 AM #86
Being a big fan of the 190 QLabs myself, but have never experienced tips being too soft, I just gotta ask. Are you guys on the gen 1, with boot center line near -6? I'm -1 from the "new" line, i.e. TC -9 and love em there. I tend to encourage anyone disliking them to try a more rearward mount. I prefer a centered stance, so it's not that I wanna use a lot of shin pressure.
Btw, the 190's are 188 along the base, 187 cm straight pull, but yeah, not 190 fer sure.
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01-23-2020, 11:01 AM #87Registered User
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I seem to remember something about the mount point line changing? I have the last iteration of the 190. Mine are mounted on the line, which I never thought of needing to move. I know people seemed to have issues with the lack of front half of the ski, ie center mount. I'd say they are not the greatest ski, they totally don't make sense, heavy as fuck, and maybe one of the stiffest hand flexing skis out there. I have had a lot of good days on mine. Carve or pivot, fun in trees, not the greatest pow ski, cut the crud pretty well. Not ready to move on yet, though the enforcer 110 is calling a little bit..
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01-23-2020, 12:31 PM #88
the unicorn skied my pair, mounted at -9.
they're rad skis with the lab core or whatever the race layup is called. I just thought they lacked enough length in the front half of the ski to manage chop and balance out the tails. I can imagine for guys above 6' that feeling was amplified. super fun skis if you're engaged all the way through your turns. the relatively short sidecut would sometimes feel squirrely on straight-line runouts and I fought that tail in PNW mank on a few occasions.
I have a pair of x-drive 8.8's from the same era as my low tide groomer ripper. they have a lot of the characteristics I liked about the q-lab but I'm not asking them to be a one-ski quiver.
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01-23-2020, 01:37 PM #89
^^Agreed^^
Yeah, those beaver tails are pretty massive and sure gets noted. I trimmed mine extensively so now they release so much better. They sure are in a class of it's own, but a fun personality (even frontside) with a great backbone, but nowhere near as neutral or predictable as LPR 105!
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01-23-2020, 02:15 PM #90
The original 188 Armada Invictus 108 very similar to a LP 105 in stability but more lively and better in pow. I owned both. The invictus was noticeably longer than the 190 Q Lab. I don’t know how the newer lighter Invictus skis. I’m digging the 188 Corvus and am excited to ski the 193s after I swap with CL.
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01-23-2020, 02:58 PM #91Registered User
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01-23-2020, 06:19 PM #92Squaw Cares
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Monster 108.............I'm sure someone said it but four pages is beyond my attention span.
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01-23-2020, 06:24 PM #93
The invictus has a stiffer tip and is less turny than the Q lab. The tail is pretty stiff. I think the Corvus feels like the Invictus with no camber. I think they’re both incredibly stable and damp. I’m not sure about the newer Invictus, it’s lighter but still has two sheets of titanal.
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01-23-2020, 07:02 PM #94
This happened to me. I'm probably at -10 on mine. I got the same measurement too.
In some ways, they are a bit too turny, but in other ways they crush everything. Which is probably part of why I've been getting so tired so easily but oh well, I'll just learn to ski more better.
I don't know what a similar ski still being made now would be if you want that small turn radius.
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01-23-2020, 07:23 PM #95
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